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[Mike Silber]

Thanks for the timely reminder Sylvain

I think we may need to expand on the concept of “transparency”.

The challenge many of us have is that the discussion is transparent, but the background and motivation of many participants is not transparent.

Any thoughts if such transparency is desirable (or required)? Any suggestions how we increase the transparency of participants (if desirable)?

Mike


> On 10 Jun 2021, at 13:17, Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> Dear PDWG,

> 

> Hoping that this email finds you in good health!

> 

> ...please see my comments below.

> 

> Le mar. 8 juin 2021 11:58 AM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> a écrit :

> Hi Jordi

> 

> 

> Hi Noah,

> Thanks for your email, brother.

> 

> 

> What I am saying is that we out to be responsible but that does not mean we must be anonymous.

> 

> 

> ...i think the discussion about anonymity [1] 

> is a foundamental one for this PDWG.

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> [1]: Anonymity & Profiling Internet Community Members?

> <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011085.html <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011085.html>>

> 

> We should address it fairly...as it's not an easy matter.

> 

> What we should consider is always our core principles [2] :

> 

> ~°~

> 3.2   <>Policy Development Principles

> All policies are developed by the Internet community following the three principles of openness, transparency and fairness. The Internet community initiates and discusses the proposals. If consensus is reached on the draft policy, it is recommended to the AFRINIC Board of Directors for adoption as a policy.

> 3.2.1 Openness

> All policies are developed in an open forum in which anyone may participate. There are no qualifications for participation.

> 3.2.2 Transparency

> All aspects of the Policy Development Process are documented and publicly available via the AFRINIC website. The discussions are publicly archived. All procedures that are developed to implement the policy are documented by AFRINIC and are publicly available.

> 3.2.3 Fairness

> The policies are to ensure fair distribution of resources and facilitating the operation of the Internet. Actions are taken within a reasonable period of time.

> ~°~

> 

> The challenged principle is "Openness"

> ...and because the PDWG should be always 

> open to new participations...the problem at hands 

> is tough and difficult to solve.

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> [2]: CPM section 3.2 

> <https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP-Principles <https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP-Principles>>

> 

> 

> 

> With freedom comes responsibility.

> 

> 

> ...my responsibility is to follow the PDP while 

> participating to the PDWG's activities. ...i'll always keep preserving all my personal 

> values, principles & beliefs. If i must 

> compromise it, then i'm not in a place 

> where i should stay...i agree! but if it might appear to be easy to me...the opposite if certainly true for others... :-/

> 

> ...trying to wear their shoes is a good try.

> 

> Have blessed thursday!

> 

> Shalom,

> --sb.

> 

> 

> Noah

> 

> On Tue, 8 Jun 2021, 13:42 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD, <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

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