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[rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016
Simon mayoye
mayoye at seacom.mu
Fri Jun 17 14:31:28 UTC 2016
Hi Alain,
On 6/17/16 4:30 PM, ALAIN AINA wrote:
>> There’s simply no excuse today for building out an IPv4-only network.
>
> We knew this since RFC1933 (1996), even before, but did not make happen.
>
> So let me propose an IPv6 plan for AFRICA from AFRINIC perspective:
>
> 1- Lets adopt the Soft landing proposal which imposes IPv6
> ressources(PA or PI) before IPv4 allocation.
>
> It will stop people for getting IPv4 without requesting IPV6. It also
> make members/users work on IPv6 plans to convince their parent LIRs or
> to meet the assignment and allocation criteria specified in the policies*
>
I agree with this. As much as this will not guarantee the IPv6
uptake/usage, it is a better approach that might improve the uptake..now
this is SOFTER..
> 2- Lets adopt the Audit/review policy to describe how AFRINIC shall
> proceed with auditing members ressources utilisation(IPv6 in this
> case) and tell compliance level and issues/reasons of non-deployment
> of IPv6.
>
+1
> 3- Lets request AFRINIC R&D team to do an IPV6 readiness analysis per
> member:
>
> - IPv6 allocation/assignments in Whois
> - Route6 objects in the IRR
> - Routing policy in the IRR
> - IPv6 prefixes in the routing table
> - IP6.arpa sub-domains delegation
> - DNS over IPv6
> - Org web site over IPv6
> - Etc…
>
In agreement with this.
Just to add that Telcos will also play a part to Evangelize this to
their downstream customers. And as end users on networks , we will
require to mount pressure on our providers who do not run IPv6.
> And rank members based on their IPv6 readiness. It will tell where we
> are and may help folks making decisions.
>
> Does it sound like a good plan ?
>
>
> *http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/132-afpub-2007-v6-001
> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/122-afpub-2013-v6-001
>
>
> —Alain
>
Simon
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Andrew Alston
>>> <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com
>>> <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The IPv4 may not rot, but the customers at the market will still
>>> be going hungry because we’re trying to be fair to the farmers –
>>> and people will still starve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com
>>> <mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 10:30 AM
>>> *To: *Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com
>>> <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz
>>> <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>>, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com
>>> <mailto:owen at delong.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Cc: *rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as
>>> of 2016
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> :-) I like the introduction of analogys to the thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Difference here is that the v4 will not rot and that those who
>>> have and want more should be encouraged to only get V6 if they
>>> want additional resources.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think this would offer a win-win outcome for all those in the
>>> region.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/16/16, 10:20 AM, "Andrew Alston"
>>> <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com
>>> <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me put this another way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lets say hypothetically we have 3 farmers, and they all have
>>> vegetables to deliver to 3 different markets. The people at
>>> the markets are hungry and waiting for the vegetables.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is fuel, and hypothetically, it could get all 3
>>> farmers trucks to the market, but only one trip each.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farmer 1 has a truck – except it has no tyres
>>>
>>> Farmer 2 has a truck - except its battery is dead
>>>
>>> Farmer 3 has a working truck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s going to take a month before Farmer 1 and Farmer 2 have
>>> their trucks repaired, and the vegetables only last a week
>>> before they go bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do we, a.) Say that in the interest of fairness to the
>>> farmers, we let Farmer 3 make 1 trip, and then for the next
>>> 3 weeks, Farmer 1, 2 and 3 have all their vegetables go bad
>>> while the people at the markets all starve or b.) Do we say,
>>> we have one working truck, that can deliver to the markets,
>>> he is in a position to feed the people at that market, so,
>>> let him have the fuel he needs to do that, so at least some
>>> people get fed, even if Farmer 1 and 2 are disadvantaged?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my view, it’s a clear cut thing, Farmer 1 gets the fuel,
>>> because not giving it to him hurts the people far more than
>>> giving it to him and letting him deliver every vegetable he can.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let those who can use it have it, so long as its used for
>>> the advantage of the African community – do not artificially
>>> constrain things and hurt everyone just to try and be “fair”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Noah <noah at neo.co.tz <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 8:36 AM
>>> *To: *Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>>
>>> *Cc: *rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa
>>> as of 2016
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Jun 2016 03:51, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com
>>> <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:33 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz
>>> <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 15 Jun 2016 22:03, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com
>>> <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Instead, the best thing is for all of us to recognize
>>> that IPv4 has become unsustainable and stop depending on its
>>> continued availability.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> We can similarly recognise that Crude Oil fossils and
>>> their byproducts Diesel and Petrol [IPv4] are unsustainable
>>> a d stop depending on their continued availability.
>>> >>
>>> >> We should all go for Solar Energy [IPv6] after all the
>>> Sun is so abundant in supply and everyone will have
>>> unlimited energy through solar.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Agreed… I have 31 panels on my roof generating
>>> approximately 108% of my total electrical needs and feeding
>>> the excess back to the power utility in my area. (I use
>>> about 1.2kw average consumption and my solar system
>>> generates about 6.5kW peak output about 5-6 hours per day
>>> during summer).
>>> >
>>> > How about you?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Needless to say, am sure you got my point. :-)
>>>
>>> > Owen
>>> >
>>>
>>> Noah
>>>
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