[rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016

Thu Jun 16 13:27:01 UTC 2016

+1.Well established player with wide infrastructure should lead IPv6 adoption.All of us agree that IPv4 is no longer sustainable and big players have a critical role in this transition.Reasonable to push them to use IPv6 instead of V4.Serge IlungaCell: +243814443160Skype: sergekbkR.D.Congo-------- Original message --------From: Alagie Ceesay <aceesay84 at gmail.com> Date: 06/16/2016  12:12  (GMT+03:00) To: Keshwarsingh Nadan <kn at millenium.net.mu> Cc: rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016 
+1 Danny, Honest, Badru... I believe we don't have to rush to clear the v4 space completely before turning to v6. Well established providers can of course lead the v6 adoption considering their available infrastructure and resources to move v6. Startup networks (especially schools) should be considered.

Resources should remain in the region.

My view.

Alagie

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Keshwarsingh Nadan <kn at millenium.net.mu> wrote:

That again proves, such an organization cannot be run by small birdie brains..

--
Regards,
K

From: Danny [mailto:afahounko at gmail.com]

Sent: 16 June 2016 12:38

To: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>

Cc: rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net>

Subject: Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016

Hello folks,

I really believe we should encourage big companies who want IPv$ (sorry.. IPv4) prefixes to go for IPv6 because they do have budget and resources to deploy it. Going for IPv6 should not start only when IPv4 ends. And I am not sure the IPv4
 will end tomorrow, nor after 20 years.

Let's keep our last /8 for starter companies and upcoming infrastructures. Infrastructures in Africa are growing slowly and we should not slow down our normal progression with the IPv4 depletion in our region.

We are already suffering from many lockdown situations (energy, crises, economy, political..). 

Please don't add Internet resources on the list.

Thanks

2016-06-16 9:30 GMT+02:00 Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>:

 :-) I like the introduction of analogys to the thread.

Difference here is that the v4 will not rot and that those who have and want more should be encouraged to only get V6 if they want additional resources.   

I think this would offer a win-win outcome for all those in the region.

Regards

On 6/16/16, 10:20 AM, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:

Let me put this another way.

Lets say hypothetically we have 3 farmers, and they all have vegetables to deliver to 3
 different markets.  The people at the markets are hungry and waiting for the vegetables.

There is fuel, and hypothetically, it could get all 3 farmers trucks to the market, but
 only one trip each.

Farmer 1 has a truck – except it has no tyres
Farmer 2 has a truck  - except its battery is dead

Farmer 3 has a working truck.

It’s going to take a month before Farmer 1 and Farmer 2 have their trucks repaired, and
 the vegetables only last a week before they go bad.

Do we, a.) Say that in the interest of fairness to the farmers, we let Farmer 3 make 1 trip,
 and then for the next 3 weeks, Farmer 1, 2 and 3 have all their vegetables go bad while the people at the markets all starve or b.) Do we say, we have one working truck, that can deliver to the markets, he is in a position to feed the people at that market,
 so, let him have the fuel he needs to do that, so at least some people get fed, even if Farmer 1 and 2 are disadvantaged?

In my view, it’s a clear cut thing, Farmer 1 gets the fuel, because not giving it to him
 hurts the people far more than giving it to him and letting him deliver every vegetable he can.

Let those who can use it have it, so long as its used for the advantage of the African community
 – do not artificially constrain things and hurt everyone just to try and be “fair”

Andrew

From:
Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>

Date: Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 8:36 AM

To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>

Cc: rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net>

Subject: Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016

On 16 Jun 2016 03:51, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:

>

>

>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:33 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

>>

>>

>> On 15 Jun 2016 22:03, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> > Instead, the best thing is for all of us to recognize that IPv4 has become unsustainable and stop depending on its continued availability.

>> >

>>

>> We can similarly recognise that Crude Oil fossils and their byproducts Diesel and Petrol [IPv4] are unsustainable a d stop depending on their continued availability.

>>

>> We should all go for Solar Energy [IPv6] after all the Sun is so abundant in supply and everyone will have unlimited energy through solar.

>

>

> Agreed… I have 31 panels on my roof generating approximately 108% of my total electrical needs and feeding the excess back to the power utility in my area. (I use about 1.2kw average consumption and my solar system generates about 6.5kW peak output about
 5-6 hours per day during summer).

>

> How about you?

>
Needless to say, am sure you got my point.  :-)

> Owen

>
Noah

_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list
RPD at afrinic.net 
https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd 

_______________________________________________

RPD mailing list

RPD at afrinic.net

https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd

_______________________________________________

RPD mailing list

RPD at afrinic.net

https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20160616/f36348b4/attachment-0001.html>