<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>+1.</div><div>Well established player with wide infrastructure should lead IPv6 adoption.</div><div>All of us agree that IPv4 is no longer sustainable and big players have a critical role in this transition.</div><div>Reasonable to push them to use IPv6 instead of V4.</div><div id="composer_signature"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><b><i>Serge Ilunga</i></b><div><b><i>Cell: +243814443160</i></b></div><div><b><i>Skype: sergekbk</i></b></div><div><b><i>R.D.Congo</i></b></div></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Alagie Ceesay <aceesay84@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 06/16/2016 12:12 (GMT+03:00) </div><div>To: Keshwarsingh Nadan <kn@millenium.net.mu> </div><div>Cc: rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net> </div><div>Subject: Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016 </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>+1 Danny, Honest, Badru... I believe we don't have to rush to clear the v4 space completely before turning to v6. Well established providers can of course lead the v6 adoption considering their available infrastructure and resources to move v6. Startup networks (especially schools) should be considered.<br><br></div>Resources should remain in the region.<br><br></div><div>My view.<br></div><div><br></div>Alagie<br><div><div><br><br><br> <br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Keshwarsingh Nadan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kn@millenium.net.mu" target="_blank">kn@millenium.net.mu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> Danny [mailto:<a href="mailto:afahounko@gmail.com" target="_blank">afahounko@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I really believe we should encourage big companies who want IPv$ (sorry.. IPv4) prefixes to go for IPv6 because they do have budget and resources to deploy it. Going for IPv6 should not start only when IPv4 ends. And I am not sure the IPv4
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let's keep our last /8 for starter companies and upcoming infrastructures. Infrastructures in Africa are growing slowly and we should not slow down our normal progression with the IPv4 depletion in our region.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are already suffering from many lockdown situations (energy, crises, economy, political..). <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please don't add Internet resources on the list.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Difference here is that the v4 will not rot and that those who have and want more should be encouraged to only get V6 if they want additional resources. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I think this would offer a win-win outcome for all those in the region.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Lets say hypothetically we have 3 farmers, and they all have vegetables to deliver to 3
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">There is fuel, and hypothetically, it could get all 3 farmers trucks to the market, but
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Farmer 1 has a truck – except it has no tyres</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Farmer 2 has a truck - except its battery is dead
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Farmer 3 has a working truck.</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">It’s going to take a month before Farmer 1 and Farmer 2 have their trucks repaired, and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Do we, a.) Say that in the interest of fairness to the farmers, we let Farmer 3 make 1 trip,
and then for the next 3 weeks, Farmer 1, 2 and 3 have all their vegetables go bad while the people at the markets all starve or b.) Do we say, we have one working truck, that can deliver to the markets, he is in a position to feed the people at that market,
so, let him have the fuel he needs to do that, so at least some people get fed, even if Farmer 1 and 2 are disadvantaged?</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">In my view, it’s a clear cut thing, Farmer 1 gets the fuel, because not giving it to him
hurts the people far more than giving it to him and letting him deliver every vegetable he can.</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Let those who can use it have it, so long as its used for the advantage of the African community
– do not artificially constrain things and hurt everyone just to try and be “fair”</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 8:36 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>rpd List <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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On 16 Jun 2016 03:51, "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:33 , Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 15 Jun 2016 22:03, "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> > Instead, the best thing is for all of us to recognize that IPv4 has become unsustainable and stop depending on its continued availability.<br>
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>> We can similarly recognise that Crude Oil fossils and their byproducts Diesel and Petrol [IPv4] are unsustainable a d stop depending on their continued availability.<br>
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>> We should all go for Solar Energy [IPv6] after all the Sun is so abundant in supply and everyone will have unlimited energy through solar.<br>
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> Agreed… I have 31 panels on my roof generating approximately 108% of my total electrical needs and feeding the excess back to the power utility in my area. (I use about 1.2kw average consumption and my solar system generates about 6.5kW peak output about
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