[rpd] PDWG Co-Chairs Recall Request

[Ibeanusi Elvis]

Hello

I am quite astonished to see some of the more “experienced” members keep
giving names to others, calling them “puppet” “not real people” comment
etc.

Is our community a hierarchical system now that more “experienced” members
can just point at others just because they *stayed* in the list longer
without actually offering any sound arguments but just giving other’s
names? I find that quite disrespectful.

Is our community turning to an exclusive old member VIP list than an
intellectual platform that offers fruitful debates?

Elvis.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 9:22 Owen DeLong via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:


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>

> On Jul 29, 2021, at 12:44 , Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>

> wrote:

>

> For quiet a while in PDWG we have pretty much the *same group of people*

> who have been trying hard to force a couple of things into PDWG and AfriNic

> and which fortunately have been failing on all of them. This is becoming

> every day more evident and as much they get turned down on their tentative

> they keep trying in a loophole hoping that at some point they will hit

> something, but fortunately they keep failing on ALL their tentatives.

>

>

> I would argue that it is three same groups of people…

>

> One group consists of those who believe that the governing documents

> should be interpreted literally and enforced as they are written. This

> group has had some successes and some failures over the last few years.

>

> One group consists of those who believe that the governing documents

> should be interpreted within some nebulous context and thus to have

> meanings not plain in the text of the documents, but sourced from this

> so-called context. This group has also had some successes and some failures

> over the last few years, but this group now seems to have the backing of

> the AFRINIC board in corrupting and perverting the interpretation of policy

> in an effort to seize powers never actually granted. This is a very

> dangerous path and I hope that we can steer AFRINIC off of this path before

> it goes over a cliff.

>

> One group which does not appear to be ideologically aligned with either

> group and just wants the battle between the other two groups to end without

> some form of mutual destruction.

>

> Their way to do things are pretty much static and the very same people

> repeat the same stuff over and over and over again and there are occasions

> where it seems the messages were all drafted by the same person. It is too

> naive from some of them to believe there are much community members who

> don't notice this. Below a list of the stuff this same group tried and it

> shows the links between some of these episodes and the type of controversy

> or even wrong things they keep trying for:

>

> In fairness, I’m pretty sure that Noah, Arnaud, and Marcus each draft

> their own text, but you are entitled to your opinion.

>

> Owen

> (Who also drafts all of his own text)

>

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