<div><div dir="auto">Hello</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am quite astonished to see some of the more “experienced” members keep giving names to others, calling them “puppet” “not real people” comment etc. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is our community a hierarchical system now that more “experienced” members can just point at others just because they *stayed* in the list longer without actually offering any sound arguments but just giving other’s names? I find that quite disrespectful. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is our community turning to an exclusive old member VIP list than an intellectual platform that offers fruitful debates?</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Elvis. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 9:22 Owen DeLong via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 29, 2021, at 12:44 , Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div><p>For quiet a while in PDWG we have pretty much the <b>same group
of people</b> who have been trying hard to force a couple of
things into PDWG and AfriNic and which fortunately have been
failing on all of them. This is becoming every day more evident
and as much they get turned down on their tentative they keep
trying in a loophole hoping that at some point they will hit
something, but fortunately they keep failing on ALL their
tentatives.<br></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I would argue that it is three same groups of people…</div><div><br></div><div>One group consists of those who believe that the governing documents should be interpreted literally and enforced as they are written. This group has had some successes and some failures over the last few years.</div><div><br></div><div>One group consists of those who believe that the governing documents should be interpreted within some nebulous context and thus to have meanings not plain in the text of the documents, but sourced from this so-called context. This group has also had some successes and some failures over the last few years, but this group now seems to have the backing of the AFRINIC board in corrupting and perverting the interpretation of policy in an effort to seize powers never actually granted. This is a very dangerous path and I hope that we can steer AFRINIC off of this path before it goes over a cliff.</div><div><br></div><div>One group which does not appear to be ideologically aligned with either group and just wants the battle between the other two groups to end without some form of mutual destruction.</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><p>Their way to do things are pretty much static and the very same
people repeat the same stuff over and over and over again and
there are occasions where it seems the messages were all drafted
by the same person. It is too naive from some of them to believe
there are much community members who don't notice this. Below a
list of the stuff this same group tried and it shows the links
between some of these episodes and the type of controversy or even
wrong things they keep trying for:</p></div></div></blockquote>In fairness, I’m pretty sure that Noah, Arnaud, and Marcus each draft their own text, but you are entitled to your opinion.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div>(Who also drafts all of his own text)</div><div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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