[rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs

[Owen DeLong]

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 4:58 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:

> 

> Dear Caleb,

> 

> Let me begin by understanding whether we are electing a new set of Co-Chairs to start a new tenure or are we selecting an interim Co-chairs for the purpose of the upcoming PPM or are we selecting co-chairs to complete the tenure of the recalled co-chairs?

> 

IMHO, Section 3.3 of the CPM makes it very clear that all we can do right now is select interim co-chairs to finish out the terms of the recalled co-chairs. Thus IMHO, the person with the most votes should get a term which ends at the PDWG meeting in 2022 and the person with the next highest vote count should get a term which ends at the next PDWG meeting.

> I am asking, because I understand your contributions in the direction that, what we have been rambling on, is all about having an Interim co-chairs. Similarly, the sections you are quoting speaks about completion of tenure. The example also clearly shows the same thought line.

> 

> I am seeking this clarification,  is Madhvi now the chair of the an ECOM? Let us be explicit in what we are doing or what we intend  to do. I really don't want to speculate.

> 

> I want to reiterate again, let us stick to the rules and guides enshrined in the CPM without being clever with interpretations of its' contents. 

> 


If we stick to the rules, then interim co-chairs are to be selected by the PDWG. There is no provision for a nominating committee, nor is there any provision for imposing any requirements outside of the minimal guidance in section 3.3 of the CPM. This means that the criteria proposed can serve as an advisory to the group in evaluating candidates prior to whatever selection process is implemented, but cannot be imposed in order to block someone’s candidacy for the office.

Further, IMHO, the selection process must be:
	1.	Deterministic — It must yield a definitive outcome through a single instance of the process.
	2.	Fair — We must avoid disenfranchisement of legitimate members of the PDWG and we must not apply arbitrary
		policies ad hoc to eliminate candidates from consideration.

IMHO, unless we get only 2 candidates and can somehow achieve consensus about which one gets the shorter term and both candidates are acceptable to the PDWG as a whole, it would be very difficult to create a process other than election which meets the above 2 criteria.

Owen


> S.......,

> 

> Daniel

> 

> On 27/03/2021 7:19 pm, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote: 

>> Hello Daniel,

>> 

>> I think what Noah  was referring to was the invocation of section 3.3 in part which says:

>> 

>> If the Working Group Chair is unable to serve his or her full term, the Working Group may select a replacement to serve the remainder of the term. If the Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group shall nominate a Chair for the session. Anyone present at the meeting, whether in person or by remote participation, may participate in the selection process for a temporary Chair.

>> 

>> If memory serves me right ( which i'm pretty sure it does) what happened in Botswana as i was also present at that meeting and infact had the honour to do the nomination of Dewole on floor of the the PPM was that Seun resigned, and the ECOM which is powered by AFRINIC staff  made the call at the meeting. NoMCoM was not involved.

>> 

>> I believe that Madhvi is doing is in absolute order given the circumstances we find ourselves. Therefore, this is not a matter that neccessary needs to be going before the NoMCoM. The PDWG can self organise and that is what is happening here. The whole idea is to drive a concensus by the secretariat based on serving the interest of the PDWG.

>> 

>> I believe that the conversation should be, how we get the interim chairs "SELECTED" from within the working group? I also do not see any word around "ELECTION" but selection by the WG.

>> We need to be mindful of the words in the CPM.

>> 

>> Bear in mind that my comments are made as a RPD community member and not a comment based on any hat i currently wear in the community.

>> 

>> 

>> Caleb Ogundele 

>> Community Member

>> 

>>  

>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:32 PM Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

>> I am happy you said "coordination with NomCom Chair". So I expect we should be having NomCOM by now, and they handling the selection/election process of the Co-Chairs going forward.

>> 

>> The Secretariat providing the support necessary for the NomCom to function.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Simply,

>> 

>> Daniel

>> 

>> On 27/03/2021 3:00 pm, Noah wrote:

>>> 

>>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021, 14:18 Daniel Yakmut, <yakmutd at googlemail.com <mailto:yakmutd at googlemail.com>> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> AfriNIC has always been Secretariat for PDWG. But I can't remember it mutating into a NomCom.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Dan,

>>> 

>>> Well as an example, when we were in Botswana in 2016, where within an hour of Seun resignation after the PPM, the WG selected Dewole as co-chair with the coordination from policy liason (AFRINIC Staff) and nomcom chair.

>>> 

>>> This coordination from the secretariat is not new chief.

>>> 

>>> Noah

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