[rpd] REQUEST TO RECALL THE AFRINIC PDWG CO-CHAIRS

[Sunday Folayan]

Hello Wijdane,

I disagree with you that there are no good people in our community. We 
need not run ourselves down, just to appease a few. Where did you get 
this idea of 100% non-involvement of anyone at this point in time? Is 
that a well-meaning African?

If we allow this, someone will arise in the future and argue that we do 
not have honest, or well-meaning people to run AFRINIC, ultimately 
asking us to lend-a-board from RIR-X.

Stop running down the people with good intentions in the community. Stop 
painting the community with a tar brush. Aren't the co-chairs 
volunteers? What is the big deal? If indeed there is a wrong call, so be 
it, we will learn from it in the future and become stronger.

If we intentionally ill-treat volunteers, posterity is there to remind 
us, anyway. What is the fuss?

Sunday.


On 12/2/20 12:48 PM, Wijdane Goubi wrote:

> Dear community,

>

> I believe that there should be a recall committee that has never had 

> any involvement with AFRINIC before, otherwise the judgement won’t be 

> 100% objective and unbiased. As I already said before, the reasons 

> behind this recall are very obvious, especially after the constant 

> personal attacking of the co-chairs for approving one policy and 

> disapproving others.

>

> Therefore, and in order for the process to be as smooth and as fair as 

> possible, I strongly support and recommend the idea of giving the lead 

> to members from other regions alongside the AFRINIC staff to decide 

> whether the co-chairs should be removed or not and whether this recall 

> document should even be taken into consideration.

>

> Regards,

> Wijdane.

>

> Le mer. 2 déc. 2020 à 01:39, Ibeanusi Elvis <ibeanusielvis at gmail.com 

> <mailto:ibeanusielvis at gmail.com>> a écrit :

>

>     Dear Board; Dear all,

>

>     Following the language of the CPM’s current policy for Recall of

>     the PDWG Co-chairs as stated in 3.5 Conflict Resolution, “…The

>     AFRINIC Board of Directors shall appoint a recall committee,

>     excluding the persons requesting the recall and the Working Group

>     Chairs”. Based on the ongoing events in the AFRINIC’s RPD mailing

>     list specifically exacerbated by the PDP decisions. I concur that

>     most of the community or AFRINIC members decisions are already

>     made up even prior to proper investigations and trial hearings.

>     Thus, appointing Recall Committee members that its integrity will

>     not be challenged and question often, or a committee with no

>     conflict of interest and the decisions won’t be politicized or

>     biased but rather their judgement will be based on the principle

>     of impartiality, fairness and objectivity is going to be difficult.

>

>     Therefore, I advocate that the Board of Directors should appoint a

>     Recall Committee composed of people from outside the AFRINIC

>     region (APNIC, ARIN, RIPE NCC) whom has had no prior or past

>     involvement with the AFRINIC before. This Recall Committee with

>     the assistance of the AFRINIC staff will be provided with the

>     necessary documents and information that will aid them in having a

>     clear understanding of the present situation. The purpose of this

>     appointment is to ensure that the Recall Committee’s judgement

>     will be objective, fair and impartial thus not being a political

>     decision.

>

>     Best,

>

>     Elvis.

>

>>     On Nov 28, 2020, at 22:24, Emem William <dwizard65 at gmail.com

>>     <mailto:dwizard65 at gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>>     Hello Everyone,

>>

>>     I strongly believe there's more to this recall request than what

>>     the proposers claim to be thier reasons.

>>

>>     If the co-chairs were not working as supposed to, why then did we

>>     unanimously re-elect the second co-chair in the last meeting.

>>

>>     I suggest the people behind these should seek better ways of

>>     resolving thier greivances rather than complicating issued in

>>     AFRINIC. Co-chairs were elected not appointed, and voters did not

>>     come from they moon, we all voted them in.

>>

>>     Best regards,

>>     Emem William

>>

>>     On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 20:51 Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at skannet.com

>>     <mailto:sfolayan at skannet.com>> wrote:

>>

>>         On 11/26/20 2:44 PM, Frank Habicht wrote:

>>         >

>>         > On 26/11/2020 15:26, Fernando Frediani wrote:

>>         > ...

>>         >> "3.5.3 - Anyone may request the recall of a Working Group

>>         Chair at any

>>         >> time, upon written request with justification to the

>>         AFRINIC Board of

>>         >> Directors. The request must be supported by at least five

>>         (5) other

>>         >> persons from the Working Group. The AFRINIC Board of

>>         Directors shall

>>         >> appoint a recall committee, excluding the persons

>>         requesting the recall

>>         >> and the Working Group Chairs. The recall committee shall

>>         investigate the

>>         >> circumstances of the justification for the recall *and

>>         determine the

>>         >> outcome.*"

>>         > in my opinion "the outcome" clearly means *the outcome of

>>         the recall*.

>>

>>

>>         +1

>>

>>         Sunday.

>>

>>         >

>>         > Frank

>>         >

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