[rpd] Appeal against the consensus determination on proposal AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04 (Resource Transfer Policy)

[Noah]

On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, 19:02 Jaco Kroon, <jaco at uls.co.za> wrote:


> Hi Ekaterina,

> On 2020/10/21 17:25, Ekaterina Kalugina wrote:

>

> Dear Alain,

>

> First of all, you say that the changes made by the authors during the last

> call are not editorial changes and therefore cannot be accepted as per the

> PDP. Yet nowhere in the CPM this is stated explicitly.

>

> Neither are any changes of any nature explicitly permitted either, and the

> intent of the CPM based on my reading and understanding thereof is that

> last call is for review only.  So if you want to nitpick, then no changes

> should be permitted.  emphasis below added.  Nowhere is changes permitted

> here.

>


Thank you Jaco.... I need say no more.

3.4.3 Last Call

>

> A *final review of the draft policy* is initiated by the Working Group

> Chair(s) by sending an announcement to the Resource Policy Discussion

> mailing list. The Last Call period shall be at least two weeks. The Working

> Group Chair(s) shall evaluate the feedback received during the Public

> Policy Meeting and during this period and decide whether consensus has been

> achieved.

>

> But before that, let's take a step back:

>


Yap yap...


> 3.4.2 Public Policy Meeting

>

> The draft policy is placed on the agenda of an open public policy meeting.

> The agenda of the meeting shall be announced on the Resource Policy

> Discussion mailing list at least two weeks prior to the meeting. *No

> change can be made to a draft policy within one week of the meeting. This

> is so that a stable version of the draft policy can be considered at the

> meeting.* The Chair(s) determine(s) whether rough consensus has been

> achieved during the Public Policy Meeting.

>

> The Chair(s) shall publish the minutes of proceedings of the Public Policy

> Meeting not later than three weeks after the meeting.

>

> So, if we take that further, the DRAFT POLICY as discussed at the PPM is

> the one that goes to LAST CALL.  Not with any changes after that

>


And that is so that the working group adheres to the development process.
Good man.

In this appeal you also stated that the need for some policy arose as early

> as 2015. The solution to this problem has been dragged out for over 5 years

> and now that we have a functional proposal you are coming up with excuses

> that are insignificant in the context of the need of this policy.

>

> functional is still under dispute, so please refrain from such statements.

>


+1


> The changes done to the Resource Transfer Policy technically do not

> violate the CPM, as the text does not state that only editorial changes are

> allowed. In addition, nowhere in the CPM it states that the chairs are not

> allowed to propose changes that reflect the concerns of the community. In

> fact, it is their job to reflect all such issues in the summary. All the

> changes made to this policy were in response to the issues raised by the

> community and were necessary to make sure the policy is fully compatible

> with other RIRs.

>

> In fact, based on my reading of the CPM, *no changes* are allowed from at

> least 1 week *before* the PPM.

>


I need say no more.

Noah
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