<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, 19:02 Jaco Kroon, <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za">jaco@uls.co.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Ekaterina,</p>
On 2020/10/21 17:25, Ekaterina Kalugina wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Dear Alain,</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif">First
of all, you say that the changes made by the authors during
the last call are not editorial changes and therefore cannot
be accepted as per
the PDP. Yet nowhere in the CPM this is stated explicitly.</p>
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<p>Neither are any changes of any nature explicitly permitted
either, and the intent of the CPM based on my reading and
understanding thereof is that last call is for review only. So if
you want to nitpick, then no changes should be permitted.
emphasis below added. Nowhere is changes permitted here.<br></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you Jaco.... I need say no more.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<h3><span style="font-weight:normal">3.4.3 Last Call</span></h3>
<p>A <b>final review of the draft policy</b> is initiated by the
Working Group Chair(s) by sending an announcement to the Resource
Policy Discussion mailing list. The Last Call period shall be at
least two weeks. The Working Group Chair(s) shall evaluate the
feedback received during the Public Policy Meeting and during this
period and decide whether consensus has been achieved.</p>
<p>But before that, let's take a step back:<br></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yap yap...</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<h3><span style="font-weight:normal">3.4.2 Public Policy Meeting</span></h3>
<p>The draft policy is placed on the agenda of an open public policy
meeting. The agenda of the meeting shall be announced on the
Resource Policy Discussion mailing list at least two weeks prior
to the meeting. <b>No change can be made to a draft policy within
one week of the meeting. This is so that a stable version of the
draft policy can be considered at the meeting.</b> The Chair(s)
determine(s) whether rough consensus has been achieved during the
Public Policy Meeting.</p>
<p>The Chair(s) shall publish the minutes of proceedings of the
Public Policy Meeting not later than three weeks after the
meeting.</p>
<p>So, if we take that further, the DRAFT POLICY as discussed at the
PPM is the one that goes to LAST CALL. Not with any changes after
that<br></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And that is so that the working group adheres to the development process. Good man.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif">In
this appeal you also stated that the need for some policy
arose as early as 2015. The solution to this problem has been
dragged out for over
5 years and now that we have a functional proposal you are
coming up with
excuses that are insignificant in the context of the need of
this policy.</p>
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<p>functional is still under dispute, so please refrain from such
statements.<br></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">+1</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Cambria,serif">The
changes done to the Resource Transfer Policy technically
do not violate the CPM, as the text does not state that only
editorial changes
are allowed. In addition, nowhere in the CPM it states that
the chairs are not
allowed to propose changes that reflect the concerns of the
community. In fact,
it is their job to reflect all such issues in the summary. All
the changes made
to this policy were in response to the issues raised by the
community and were
necessary to make sure the policy is fully compatible with
other RIRs. <br>
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<p>In fact, based on my reading of the CPM, <b>no changes</b> are
allowed from at least 1 week *before* the PPM.<br></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I need say no more.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div>