[rpd] RE : Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

[Eva Nadege N'Cho]

+1 @Jean-Robert 


Eva Yedidja

De : Jean-Robert Hountomey
Envoyé le :mardi 18 février 2020 15:49
À : Daniel Yakmut
Cc : AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List
Objet :Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP


> I have observed that people have gradually been staying away from these meetings for lack of funding.

> Consequently, if support ceases we are likely to have AfriNIC turn into a "Cabal", where only a privilege few that attend meeting determines what happens. This is dangerous and alienating.


Organizing local communities and encouraging Remote participation could help. And AfriNIC meetings are recorded. (1).

One could organise communities to attend AfriNIC Meetings remotely. RENs, Local ICT orgs, ISOC Chapters, informal gathering etc…  are good candidates for remote viewing and participation. 

This can go as far as to invite past fellows, LIRs to get together locally, share their experience, expectations and discuss policies implications. One sees a greater impact.

(1). https://www.youtube.com/user/AfriNICMedia/videos

Jean-Robert Hountomey


On Feb 18, 2020, at 4:13 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:

Hmm... Noah,
Please do you have a foundation or source of support to bring new persons into the community during AfriNIC or AIS, because that will be wonderful. However, I have observed that people have gradually been staying away from these meetings for lack of funding.
Aside the AfriNIC Fellowship and now Larus Foundation do we have other source of support to bring people to the meetings? I wouldn't want to instigate the community against a support that will make the community a robust and engaging one. 
Consequently, if support ceases we are likely to have AfriNIC turn into a "Cabal", where only a privilege few that attend meeting determines what happens. This is dangerous and alienating.
I don't see where Larus Foundation is undermining AfriNIC. But, if we an island and self sufficient can we then ask that all external support stop and we do our things the way we want.
my take,
Daniel
On 17/02/2020 8:49 pm, Noah wrote:

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 02:18 Owen DeLong, <owen at delong.com> wrote:



On Feb 14, 2020, at 22:35 , Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:

Am i reading that participants will be rewarded due to the amount of time they public spend at the mic ??  

No. Amount of time is only relevant in attendance at the sessions. However, we also don’t want to see purely passive sitting through sessions, but actual active engagement in them.


Just asking what might outrightly be seen as a silly question but looks like “open mic minutes for sell”

I realize you and some others wish to take the most cynical possible view. Please note that I said the comments must be relevant.

We are attempting to encourage legitimate active participation.


As much as we appreciate the above the line opticals of helping the community we must always be cognizant of the bellow the line motives.  

While I cannot speak for everyone involved in this process, I can assure you that I have no below-the-line motivation. My motivation in this process is to
encourage additional active participation. It is my belief that the best policies will evolve from the most engaged community.


Pls note I’m reading from the response.  And not insinuating any motives but as they say If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Please just say what you mean.

Owen

Owen,

Your continous support to these controversies amuses me a lot.

You are rewarding people for time spent at the mic to create an engaged community for a better PDP? 

As you know, all the current active policies were discussed and ratified by this community over the past 20 years and Larus Foundation was never there when various proposals were drafted and deliberated, past volunteers co-chaired the PPM and managed working groups on this list and over the years through rough consensus, they got all the active policies today ratified.

I am disgusted by this continued undermining of AfriNIC. 



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