[rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP

[Jean-Robert Hountomey]

There are contributions to be taken as ways to improve processes and  increase participation for greater impact.

Regards.

Jean-Robert Hountomey.



> On Feb 18, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Paschal Ochang <pascosoft at gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> How many times have we gone through this issue over and over again. Someone just wakes up everytime this community is finding some peace and raises this exact issue about this sponsoring this to do this and this sponsoring this to do that. Are we all happy with our utterances here so far? Is this what Afrinic is turning into? Is this the legacy that we want to leave behind? I shake my head in disgust. So what do we intend to achieve after all this banter? This issue was thrashed and buried sometimes back and some folks decided to stir up this non profitable subject. So nothing in this community can be done out of positive intentions anymore. This one suspecting that one and vice versa. Let there be in house respect and also lets respects each others views. As we can all see so what have we achieved with all the mails flying here and there?.

> 

> On Tuesday, February 18, 2020, Jean-Robert Hountomey <jrhountomey at gmail.com <mailto:jrhountomey at gmail.com>> wrote:

> > I have observed that people have gradually been staying away from these meetings for lack of funding.

> > Consequently, if support ceases we are likely to have AfriNIC turn into a "Cabal", where only a privilege few that attend meeting determines what happens. This is dangerous and alienating.

> 

> Organizing local communities and encouraging Remote participation could help. And AfriNIC meetings are recorded. (1).

> 

> One could organise communities to attend AfriNIC Meetings remotely. RENs, Local ICT orgs, ISOC Chapters, informal gathering etc…  are good candidates for remote viewing and participation. 

> 

> This can go as far as to invite past fellows, LIRs to get together locally, share their experience, expectations and discuss policies implications. One sees a greater impact.

> 

> (1). https://www.youtube.com/user/AfriNICMedia/videos <https://www.youtube.com/user/AfriNICMedia/videos>

> 

> Jean-Robert Hountomey

> 

>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 4:13 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hmm... Noah,

>> 

>> Please do you have a foundation or source of support to bring new persons into the community during AfriNIC or AIS, because that will be wonderful. However, I have observed that people have gradually been staying away from these meetings for lack of funding.

>> 

>> Aside the AfriNIC Fellowship and now Larus Foundation do we have other source of support to bring people to the meetings? I wouldn't want to instigate the community against a support that will make the community a robust and engaging one. 

>> 

>> Consequently, if support ceases we are likely to have AfriNIC turn into a "Cabal", where only a privilege few that attend meeting determines what happens. This is dangerous and alienating.

>> 

>> I don't see where Larus Foundation is undermining AfriNIC. But, if we an island and self sufficient can we then ask that all external support stop and we do our things the way we want.

>> 

>> my take,

>> 

>> Daniel

>> 

>> On 17/02/2020 8:49 pm, Noah wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 02:18 Owen DeLong, <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:

>>> 

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>>>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 22:35 , Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com <mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> Am i reading that participants will be rewarded due to the amount of time they public spend at the mic ??  

>>> 

>>> No. Amount of time is only relevant in attendance at the sessions. However, we also don’t want to see purely passive sitting through sessions, but actual active engagement in them.

>>> 

>>>> Just asking what might outrightly be seen as a silly question but looks like “open mic minutes for sell”

>>> 

>>> I realize you and some others wish to take the most cynical possible view. Please note that I said the comments must be relevant.

>>> 

>>> We are attempting to encourage legitimate active participation.

>>> 

>>>> As much as we appreciate the above the line opticals of helping the community we must always be cognizant of the bellow the line motives.  

>>> 

>>> While I cannot speak for everyone involved in this process, I can assure you that I have no below-the-line motivation. My motivation in this process is to

>>> encourage additional active participation. It is my belief that the best policies will evolve from the most engaged community.

>>> 

>>>> Pls note I’m reading from the response.  And not insinuating any motives but as they say If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

>>> 

>>> Please just say what you mean.

>>> 

>>> Owen

>>> 

>>> Owen,

>>> 

>>> Your continous support to these controversies amuses me a lot.

>>> 

>>> You are rewarding people for time spent at the mic to create an engaged community for a better PDP? 

>>> 

>>> As you know, all the current active policies were discussed and ratified by this community over the past 20 years and Larus Foundation was never there when various proposals were drafted and deliberated, past volunteers co-chaired the PPM and managed working groups on this list and over the years through rough consensus, they got all the active policies today ratified.

>>> 

>>> I am disgusted by this continued undermining of AfriNIC. 

>>> 

>>> 

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