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--></style></head><body lang=FR link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>+1 @Jean-Robert <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#203864'>Eva Yedidja</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#203864'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><b>De : </b><a href="mailto:jrhountomey@gmail.com">Jean-Robert Hountomey</a><br><b>Envoyé le :</b>mardi 18 février 2020 15:49<br><b>À : </b><a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com">Daniel Yakmut</a><br><b>Cc : </b><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List</a><br><b>Objet :</b>Re: [rpd] Larus foundation and Afrinic PDP</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>> I have observed that people have gradually been staying away from these meetings for lack of funding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>> Consequently, if support ceases we are likely to have AfriNIC turn into a "Cabal", where only a privilege few that attend meeting determines what happens. This is dangerous and alienating.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>Organizing local communities and encouraging Remote participation could help. And AfriNIC meetings are recorded. (1).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>One could organise communities to attend AfriNIC Meetings remotely. RENs, Local ICT orgs, ISOC Chapters, informal gathering etc… are good candidates for remote viewing and participation. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>This can go as far as to invite past fellows, LIRs to get together locally, share their experience, expectations and discuss policies implications. One sees a greater impact.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>(1). <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/AfriNICMedia/videos">https://www.youtube.com/user/AfriNICMedia/videos</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jean-Robert Hountomey<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 18, 2020, at 4:13 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hmm... Noah,</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please do you have a foundation or source of support to bring new persons into the community during AfriNIC or AIS, because that will be wonderful. However, I have observed that people have gradually been staying away from these meetings for lack of funding.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Aside the AfriNIC Fellowship and now Larus Foundation do we have other source of support to bring people to the meetings? I wouldn't want to instigate the community against a support that will make the community a robust and engaging one. </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Consequently, if support ceases we are likely to have AfriNIC turn into a "Cabal", where only a privilege few that attend meeting determines what happens. This is dangerous and alienating.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don't see where Larus Foundation is undermining AfriNIC. But, if we an island and self sufficient can we then ask that all external support stop and we do our things the way we want.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>my take,</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Daniel</p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 17/02/2020 8:49 pm, Noah wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 02:18 Owen DeLong, <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 14, 2020, at 22:35 , Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" target="_blank">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am i reading that participants will be rewarded due to the amount of time they public spend at the mic ?? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>No. Amount of time is only relevant in attendance at the sessions. However, we also don’t want to see purely passive sitting through sessions, but actual active engagement in them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just asking what might outrightly be seen as a silly question but looks like “open mic minutes for sell”<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I realize you and some others wish to take the most cynical possible view. Please note that I said the comments must be relevant.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We are attempting to encourage legitimate active participation.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As much as we appreciate the above the line opticals of helping the community we must always be cognizant of the bellow the line motives. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>While I cannot speak for everyone involved in this process, I can assure you that I have no below-the-line motivation. My motivation in this process is to<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>encourage additional active participation. It is my belief that the best policies will evolve from the most engaged community.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Pls note I’m reading from the response. And not insinuating any motives but as they say If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Please just say what you mean.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Owen<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Owen,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Your continous support to these controversies amuses me a lot.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>You are rewarding people for time spent at the mic to create an engaged community for a better PDP? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>As you know, all the current active policies were discussed and ratified by this community over the past 20 years and Larus Foundation was never there when various proposals were drafted and deliberated, past volunteers co-chaired the PPM and managed working groups on this list and over the years through rough consensus, they got all the active policies today ratified.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I am disgusted by this continued undermining of AfriNIC. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>RPD mailing list</pre><pre><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></pre></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div></body></html>