[rpd] End of LAST call

[Frank Habicht]

Hi,

On 01/02/2020 11:33, Paschal Ochang wrote:

> I think its usually impossible to track all objections raised.


-1 (disagree)


> It might

> be too much of a workload for the cochairs to track objections and map

> them to answers to come out with a conclusion.


"might" - agree.
they can ask for help. Or: see Nishal's email.


> However, just as people

> here have said they can request for help. Furthermore, I think the

> authors can also assist in doing that during their responses to

> objections


Below I see the author referring to the archive link of the email the he
trusts is the issue, and responds with the link to the archive of his
response. This *is* help from author(s) clarifying what they respond to
and how they respond(ed) to it.


> cos it will be easier to document that way to show a

> documented addressing of objections to prove that all has been addressed.


the so-called "objections" are maybe not specific enough.
I've sent an email about the vague "does not provide a sufficient
period" yesterday. Awaiting response.


Thanks,
Frank



> 

> On Friday, January 31, 2020, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD

> <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

> 

>     Hi Daniel,____

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>     __ __

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>     I did a quick search in the list archive. If you’re referring to

>     this email:____

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>     https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010280.html

>     <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010280.html>____

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>     __ __

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>     I’ve responded to it (in less than 2 hours):____

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>     https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010282.html

>     <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/010282.html>____

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>     __ __

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>     I think it clearly addresses your points.____

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>     __ __

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>     I recall other people also answered afterwards.____

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>     Regards,____

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>     Jordi____

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>     @jordipalet____

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>     El 31/1/20 6:58, "Daniel Yakmut via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net

>     <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> escribió:____

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>     __ __

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>     I don't agree with your submission that; "All of the “objections” I

>     saw seemed to indicate a clear lack of understanding of RPKI in

>     general and the proposal in specific."____

> 

>     I particularly raised a concern "The current state of RPKI

>     infrastructure, does not provide a sufficient period between

>     revocation of ROA and notification that a given prefix has been

>     allocated to an organization, which can impact considerably on

>     allocations. Except we can be able to provide a sufficient period or

>     create a different procedure, the proposal for the RPKI-ROAs does

>     not fly"____

> 

>     and I did not receive any response from the author(s), I suspect

>     this is a concern that is critical and important to possible

>     adoption and implementation this proposal____

> 

>     However, I will agree that the author(s) may have been overwhelm

>     with the number of "objections" raised and could not keep track of

>     it and response, hence I will suggest that the co-chairs could help

>     by summarising the objections for the action of the author(s).____

> 

>     Simply.____

> 

>     Dan____

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>     On 31/01/2020 3:18 am, Owen DeLong wrote:____

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>         I agree with Nishal, Jordi, and Frank.____

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>         All of the “objections” I saw seemed to indicate a clear lack of understanding of RPKI in general and the proposal in specific.____

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>         __ __

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>         All of them raised concerns that simply don’t fit the facts of what is being proposed.____

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>         I did not see any legitimate or critical objections. If there is something I missed, please enumerate it (them) for the edification of the list.____

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>         Owen____

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>             On Jan 29, 2020, at 03:58 , Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za> <mailto:nishal at controlfreak.co.za> wrote:____

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>             On 29 Jan 2020, at 12:35, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:____

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>                 Dear PDWG,____

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>                 The following policy proposals have been on the Last call for about 4 weeks____

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>                 1.  Multihoming not required for ASN____

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>                 2.  Adjusting IPv6 PA Policy____

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>                 3. RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space____

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>                 However, we received some critical objections that should be addressed on____

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>                 the policy named  "RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address____

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>                 Space" therefore we believe it requires more discussion.____

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>             could you enumerate those “critical objections” please.  that would help the authors to fix this for round two.____

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>             from my perspective, the last series of responses, came from a fundamental misunderstanding of what RPKI is, and how it works.____

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>             (bear in mind, that it’s not the authors’ - or this list’s - responsibility to explain RPKI ..)____

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>             -n.____

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