[rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

I guess not, they have nothing to win, so trying to change the policies in the other 4 RIRs, while now it is clear they are working for them, why those communities will like to support that?

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 13/7/19 20:24, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> escribió:

 

The question I see it with such a proposal is why would the other RIRs want to support such an administrative and contractual nightmare?

 

Owen

 


On Jul 13, 2019, at 02:38, Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jodi, 

 

I quite agree with Soad's suggestion on IPv4 leasing, as Afric shouldn't be boxed in. 

A tripartite arrangement between Resource owner (Lessor) , the Lessee, and AfriNIC (book keeping) on resource leasing will be a way good way forward. 

 

Since AFRINIC actually has no direct control of these resources, a policy that supports leasing is actually very necessary in keeping tap on resource flow and an open market. This will also offer a leasing guidelines and arrangement which will global for African resources leased, like leasing duration, terms and conditions, and resource protection. 

 

If the flow of resources maintains a negative trends like some people suggest, it will be easier to control using uniform pricing and other policies or strategies deemed fit by the community. 

 

In the mean time, I'd really love to see the impacts analyse. 

 

 

Regards, 

 

Anthony 

 

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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:48:17 +0100
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Subject: [rpd]  inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals
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Hello,

As IPv4 are finite and if we do the transfer, our resources may run out
from our region-since there is no a explicit control motioned in the policy
- As some people argue.
Here what I suggest :

?         Establishing a leasing contract between the seller and the buyer
up to 5  years with a possibility to renew it and AfriNIC  will be the 3rd
part of the          deal .

?         AfriNIC takes no money  and  makes no  approval.

?         The buyer needs to be registered somehow in the world.

?         The contract needs to be signed by the 3 parts
(afriNIC-seller-buyer)

So buy adopting  this approach and  if we notice that our resources are
running out from our region, we can decide to bring them back and the
companies do not renew the contract with .


Best regards.

Souad
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:08:13 +0200
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
To: AfriNIC List <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals
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Hi Souad,



The problem of this is that it will be useless with other RIRs, because they require reciprocity in their policies.



If we forget that the major ?donor? is ARIN and we don?t do something that it is reciprocal with their policy.



I still think my approach with the suggested changes is the best one. ASAP I can get the impact analysis, I will review the text to accommodate to it and send a new version.



Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet







El 12/7/19 12:55, "SOUAD ABIDI" <fs_abidi at esi.dz> escribi?:



Hello, 



As IPv4 are finite and if we do the transfer, our resources may run out from our region-since there is no a explicit control motioned in the policy - As some people argue.

Here what I suggest : 



?         Establishing a leasing contract between the seller and the buyer up to 5  years with a possibility to renew it and AfriNIC  will be the 3rd part of the          deal .

?         AfriNIC takes no money  and  makes no  approval.  

?         The buyer needs to be registered somehow in the world.

?         The contract needs to be signed by the 3 parts (afriNIC-seller-buyer)

So buy adopting  this approach and  if we notice that our resources are running out from our region, we can decide to bring them back and the companies do not renew the contract with .  



Best regards.

Souad

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