[rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals

[Owen DeLong]

The question I see it with such a proposal is why would the other RIRs want to support such an administrative and contractual nightmare?

Owen



> On Jul 13, 2019, at 02:38, Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> Dear Jodi, 

> 

> I quite agree with Soad's suggestion on IPv4 leasing, as Afric shouldn't be boxed in. 

> A tripartite arrangement between Resource owner (Lessor) , the Lessee, and AfriNIC (book keeping) on resource leasing will be a way good way forward. 

> 

> Since AFRINIC actually has no direct control of these resources, a policy that supports leasing is actually very necessary in keeping tap on resource flow and an open market. This will also offer a leasing guidelines and arrangement which will global for African resources leased, like leasing duration, terms and conditions, and resource protection. 

> 

> If the flow of resources maintains a negative trends like some people suggest, it will be easier to control using uniform pricing and other policies or strategies deemed fit by the community. 

> 

> In the mean time, I'd really love to see the impacts analyse. 

> 

> 

> Regards, 

> 

> Anthony 

> 

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>>    1.  inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals (SOUAD ABIDI)

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>> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:48:17 +0100

>> From: SOUAD ABIDI <fs_abidi at esi.dz>

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>> Hello,

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>> As IPv4 are finite and if we do the transfer, our resources may run out

>> from our region-since there is no a explicit control motioned in the policy

>> - As some people argue.

>> Here what I suggest :

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>> ?         Establishing a leasing contract between the seller and the buyer

>> up to 5  years with a possibility to renew it and AfriNIC  will be the 3rd

>> part of the          deal .

>> 

>> ?         AfriNIC takes no money  and  makes no  approval.

>> 

>> ?         The buyer needs to be registered somehow in the world.

>> 

>> ?         The contract needs to be signed by the 3 parts

>> (afriNIC-seller-buyer)

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>> So buy adopting  this approach and  if we notice that our resources are

>> running out from our region, we can decide to bring them back and the

>> companies do not renew the contract with .

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>> Best regards.

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>> Souad

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>> From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>

>> To: AfriNIC List <rpd at afrinic.net>

>> Subject: Re: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals

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>> Hi Souad,

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>> The problem of this is that it will be useless with other RIRs, because they require reciprocity in their policies.

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>> If we forget that the major ?donor? is ARIN and we don?t do something that it is reciprocal with their policy.

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>> I still think my approach with the suggested changes is the best one. ASAP I can get the impact analysis, I will review the text to accommodate to it and send a new version.

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>> Regards,

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>> Jordi

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>> @jordipalet

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>> El 12/7/19 12:55, "SOUAD ABIDI" <fs_abidi at esi.dz> escribi?:

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>> Hello, 

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>> 

>> 

>> As IPv4 are finite and if we do the transfer, our resources may run out from our region-since there is no a explicit control motioned in the policy - As some people argue.

>> 

>> Here what I suggest : 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> ?         Establishing a leasing contract between the seller and the buyer up to 5  years with a possibility to renew it and AfriNIC  will be the 3rd part of the          deal .

>> 

>> ?         AfriNIC takes no money  and  makes no  approval.  

>> 

>> ?         The buyer needs to be registered somehow in the world.

>> 

>> ?         The contract needs to be signed by the 3 parts (afriNIC-seller-buyer)

>> 

>> So buy adopting  this approach and  if we notice that our resources are running out from our region, we can decide to bring them back and the companies do not renew the contract with .  

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Best regards.

>> 

>> Souad

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