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[rpd] Policy Proposal Update - IPv4 Soft Landing-bis

Andrew Alston Andrew.Alston at
Tue Aug 30 04:26:42 UTC 2016

Owen will have to find you the exact text (am on the road at the moment) but the implications were very clear, it meant that you could not use any form of address translation - whatever the IP the client hits whatever they are accessing on, must be the IP they got assigned.

This means if people want to access v4 sites they must be on public v4 space

It's done in the name of security, albeit in a very confused and silly manner :)


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From: Owen DeLong <owen at>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:42:04 AM
To: Andrew Alston
Cc: John Hay; rpd
Subject: Re: [rpd] Policy Proposal Update - IPv4 Soft Landing-bis

On Aug 28, 2016, at 00:39 , Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at<mailto:Andrew.Alston at>> wrote:

So, lets look at this like this

Certain countries are starting to propose regulations that state that all public hotspots HAVE to have public IP addresses - see the Kenyan draft regulations (actually interestingly enough I believe that's also the status-quo in certain European countries)

Are they required to have public IPv4 addresses or just public addresses?

If it's public IPv4 addresses, that's rather a silly requirement.

Are we talking about the address of the hotspot itself or the addresses it must hand out to its clients?

What, exactly, does the law actually say?

Now, taken from the perspective of a company that does public hotspots, supporting thousands of users, limiting the amount of space a provider can get = limitation on the amount of public hotspots they can provide.

Does this really impact the company providing the hotspots?  Well, probably not from a revenue perspective, not massively anyway.  However, it *DOES* directly impact the *AFRICAN CUSTOMER*

Yes, I know some are going to say that v4 space is running out - so the impact is coming anyway, however, why not let those who have the ability to actually service the customers *TODAY* do so?  Why the limitations and the dragging out of v4 life span when the rest of the world has already gone over the cliff?

To this extent, I agree with you.


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