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[rpd] New Proposal - "Internet Number Resources Audit by AFRINIC (AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT01)

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue May 31 15:12:00 UTC 2016 

I did not say that using IPv4 is degrading on a personal level. 

I said that IPv4 service quality is an ever degrading level of service as more and more of it becomes more and more dependent on greater levels and increasing layers of NAT. 

I do not think you can deny the fact that IPv4 can not provide a full end-to-end peer-to-peer experience. Thus, the network capabilities of IPv4 are in fact degraded from their design intent. This is simple fact, not any sort of insult. 

Owen


> On May 30, 2016, at 08:58, Boubakar Barry <boubakarbarry at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Je suis tout a fait d'accord qu'il n'y a rien de degradant a utiliser IPv4; tout le monde le fait. 
> 
> Et le fait que des predateurs essaient de s'accaparer des ressources IPv4 encore disponibles dans notre region est plus que revelateur.
> 
> Nous devons donc veiller a ce que ces ressources restent et soient utilisees sur notre continent, soient attribuees de maniere equitable a tous les ayants droit, tout en promouvant le deploiement d'IPv6. L'un n'exclut aucunement l'autre.
> 
> Boubakar
> 
> 
>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 3:34 PM, GH.-GNONKOTO Serges PATRICK <gnonkoto.patrick at artci.ci> wrote:
>> Hi Owen,
>> En quoi est-ce dégradant d'utiliser encore IPv4 ou ses capacités dégradantes ? Encourager les uns à migrer à IPv6 est une chose et donner la possibilité à d'autres de le faire progressivement est une autre. Nous voulons donner plus de chances à ces autres de posséder IPv4 quand on sait que le déploiement sera dual stack et que ce ne sera pas aussi brutal au risque de se mettre un couteau sous la gorge.
>> Ce policy est encourageant étant donné qu'il donne la possibilité à AFRINIC de contrôler le flux et à la communauté de suivre la gestion de ses ressources.
>> 
>> Patrick.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>    1. Re: New Proposal - "Internet Number Resources Audit by
>>       AFRINIC (AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT01) (Owen DeLong)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:39:46 -0700
>> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
>> To: Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "GH.-GNONKOTO Serges PATRICK" <gnonkoto.patrick at artci.ci>,
>>         "rpd at afrinic.net" <rpd at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [rpd] New Proposal - "Internet Number Resources Audit by
>>         AFRINIC (AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT01)
>> Message-ID: <80757280-F7EA-4CA4-8CAA-4DFFD6547AA1 at delong.com>
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>> > On May 28, 2016, at 11:04 , Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Hello Ornella,
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>> >
>> > Le 27/05/2016 16:53, Honest Ornella GANKPA a ?crit :
>> >> Indeed
>> >>
>> >> Just to add to my earlier point,   Ii noticed that AFRINIC
>> >> distributed 99.87% of /8 ( 16,755,712 IPs) in 2015 and has
>> >> distributed 38% of /8 (6,430,720 IPs)  as for 24th May 2016. IPv4 is
>> >> definitely not dead with such stats. I believe we can both encourage
>> >> rapid adoption of IPv6 throughout Africa but at the same time protect
>> >> what is already there. Because let's face it some people will still
>> >> be behind times....
>> >
>> > ?IPv4 is definitely not dead? because people use a lot of *layers* of
>> > NAT everywhere, everytime ?.
>> 
>> Which I have repeatedly referred to as IPv4 Life Support because that?s essentially what it is.
>> 
>> Keeping the protocol artificially alive with machinery while it (and everyone who uses it) suffers from an ever progressive degradation of its capabilities.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> > - --
>> > Willy Manga
>> > freenode: ongolaBoy
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