Fwd: [rpd] Integrity Issues

Mon Jul 13 21:05:02 UTC 2015

Sera Chair

The board seems to behave as an entity above the community and not  as a
structure mandated by the community, to serve the community, and commands
her like in an autocratic system, where  members of the community do NOT
have  right to share their view openly without any aggression.

I have sadly read this mail from Grace where in attached there is a mail
from Mr Andrew, aggressive to him off list. We think the Board should
respect the community and take relevant action on this issue which is in
against RIR practices.

Lastly, would you please provide us a timeline for the minutes of the
meeting where Mr Andrew integrity was tabled at Board level?

Failing to do that, consider the community point of view that the Mr Andrew
integrity issue is still pending.

Thanks

Best regards
Dear Afrinic Board and Community

My interest is in the community being assured that Afrinic is behaving
in public interest. I have no interest in personal disputes among you
big guys on the Board but I know that RIR accountability means more
community empowerment including demand for transparency and power to
recall Board members should they not act in community interest. The
concern is you guys are thinking of your persons not the community and
in this time of IANA transition we are risking entire RIR system in
being personal. If one wants to be a community leader he should be
willing to subject himself to scrutiny without recourse to courts as
it's not a birth right to be on Afrinic Board.

Regards

Please if you have anything to add on the discuss do not send it to me
offlist Mr Andrew.

Thanks you

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 10:13:00 +0000
Subject: Re: [rpd] Integrity Issues
To: grace mupoyi <gracemupoyi at gmail.com>, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>

I am sending this off list since the matter is as of this morning sub
judice and will not be discussed by me on the list any further.

There is a huge difference to what you asked on the list ³what did the
board do about this² to what Badru later stated on this list that claimed
I made and admission which I did not do.  His allegation that I made an
admission is clear for all to see on the list and constitutes libel and
slander under any legal definition.

I have forwarded ALL correspondence to my legal team and they are
proceeding.

Let me state clearly here Grace, I am now drawing a line in the sand, if
this community wishes to place stock in baseless allegations that have
been sprouted with no evidence, so be it, but I will not have my
reputation or my name damaged by such, and I will litigate with every
resource I have against anyone who continues to defame me with no evidence
to back up their claims.

The simple fact is this, if I went out on a public forum and stole from
someone, and had zero evidence, and infact the very people I claimed you
had stolen from stood up in the forum and said I was talking crap, you
would have grounds for legal recourse and could sue me.  Same situation, I
am being accused of something I did not do, with zero evidence presented,
and multiple members stating otherwise. I point out that at the meeting in
Tunis, multiple members of the community stood up and stated that the
allegations were false and that they were carrying votes and were not
influenced, paid, or even disclosed how they voted.

It is INCREDIBLY sad that I have had to go to the courts to put an end to
this, but if that is what is necessary, to ensure that this community
operates in a way that is adult in nature and not based on allegations
that are groundless with no evidence, then so be it.

Andrew Alston
Group Head of IP Strategy

Sameer business Park, Block A, Mombasa Road. Nairobi, Kenya

T: +254 205000000 -  M: +254 733 2222 04 - E:
andrew.alston at liquidtelecom.com

On 7/13/15, 12:02 PM, "grace mupoyi" <gracemupoyi at gmail.com> wrote:

>Dear Chair,
>
>With all respect, I think we should not mixed up the minutes which
>have to published.
>
>I confidently thinking that most of the members are agreed with me
>that we should NOT link the minutes of Board meeting related to Mr
>Andrew integrity issues with others minutes.
>
>I think for the sake of transparency and accountability the community
>need to know and close the issue. If we could get that minutes (of the
>last Board meeting after TUNIS) in order to close that issue will be
>very good for the community.
>
>@ Andrew
>
>Just for clarification I was the one who raised the issue on the
>report of your integrity issue NOT Mr Badru and I personally believe
>that is the responsibility of the Chair to address the community.
>Your comment on the issue could be biased since your concerning about this
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>>
>> I was not in Tunis and a search through afrinic youtube video clips has
>>not yielded anything, so i don't know what exactly Mr.Alston said but
>>considering the fact that the board took upon itself to look into the
>>issue and after reading what the Chair shared as minutes ref: Andrew's
>>integrity issue... and now Andrew's response..this is what i have
>>gathered...
>>
>> [Andrew Alston Talks to much to the point that his own words
>>(confession) from the communities perspective are concluded as (baseless
>>allegations by himself) ] hence confusing not only the community which
>>is seaking clarity on the matter but also the board itself which
>>investigated the matter and concluded..no issues at all.
>>
>> So my advice is [ Taking Too Much] is also not good sometimes, as one
>>can end up saying things which will create unconfirtable situations like
>>this...
>>
>> Noah
>>
>> Everything written below is written in my personal capacity and is not
>>necessarily representative of the views of any organisation or
>>individual to which I am associated.
>>
>> Dear Mr Ntege.
>>
>> You and I both know that you are wildly distorting what was actually
>>said in order to create this fiction.  Furthermore, you are making
>>allegations which, not only do you have any evidence for, but which are
>>also patently untrue.  I also point out that multiple members of the
>>community stood on the floor and disputed your allegations and stated
>>very clearly that they were in no way influenced in how they voted.
>>
>> This has now moved from beyond the realm of a joke, and squarely into
>>the realm of defamation by legal definition.  It amounts to both libel
>>and slander against myself, and also in fact against every member who
>>voted for myself, either via the issuance of a proxy or via direct
>>vote..  As such, I am now politely asking you to cease and desist with
>>these baseless allegations that are founded on lies and deception, and
>>that you cease this senseless vindictive campaign against me.
>>
>> This will be my last direct word on this matter, and my lawyers have
>>been instructed to deal with any further defamatory allegations by
>>yourself or others in this regard.
>>
>> Yours Sincerely
>>
>> Andrew Alston
>>
>>>
>>
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