[rpd] Privacy breach of nomcom2015's Mailing List

[Boubakar Barry]

On Sunday, June 7, 2015, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

>
> I agree that downloading the archive was poor judgment. I think if you
> were to ask the gentleman in question you would find that he might think
> twice about doing this next time he encounters a similar situation.


What makes you think that?


>
> I agree. However, in that case you are depriving the owner of the property
> access to his things. In this case, the contents of the list were copied,
> not taken.


It's the same; we are dealing with immaterial properties here. Unauthorized
copying is theft.


> I’m don’t see this as a meaningful difference, but I can see how men of
> good conscience could disagree with me about it.
>
>
Here is one who disagrees with you.


>
>
> The board member seeking re-election did not download the data. He
> received a copy in email from the person who did download it. He did not
> solicit it. He did not read the email and deleted it without reviewing the
> contents.


Can you provide any evidence for this?


>
> I do not think there are any ethical issues with the conduct of Mr. Elkins
> in this matter.


Your assessment.

Boubakar


>
> >
> > On 6/7/15 6:09 PM, Mark Elkins wrote:
> >> The gent who found the hole...
> >> 1 - considers that I have honor and integrity
> >> 2 - knows that I served last year as Chair of NomCom
> >> 3 - knows I have a technical background
> >> 4 - may know me better on a personal basis, better than most other Board
> >> Members
> >> 5 - knows I will do the right thing.
> >>
> >> Perhaps there was nothing odd with his action at all?
> >>
> >>   .  .        ___. .__      Posix Systems - (South) Africa.
> >> /| /|             / /__       mje at posix.co.za <javascript:;>
> >> <mailto:mje at posix.co.za <javascript:;>>  -  Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
> >> / |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS  Tel: +27 12 807 0590
> >> <tel:+27%2012%20807%200590>  Cell: +27 82 601 0496
> >> <tel:+27%2082%20601%200496>
> >>
> >> On 07 Jun 2015, at 12:19, Boubakar Barry <boubakarbarry at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> >> <mailto:boubakarbarry at gmail.com <javascript:;>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The most odd thing in this is the sharing of the archives with
> >>> _selected_ Board members. If there were no malicious intent, alerting
> >>> the CEO would have sufficed.
> >>>
> >>> Boubakar
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz <javascript:;>
> >>> <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz <javascript:;>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    On 7 Jun 2015 08:11, "Sunday Folayan" <sunday.folayan at afrinic.net
> <javascript:;>
> >>>    <mailto:sunday.folayan at afrinic.net <javascript:;>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 07/06/2015 06:40, Noah wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I do not know which copy of the archive has been privately
> circulated in
> >>>>> the community, and I do not expect to discover that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is why i adviced the board chair Sunday to next time be clear
> rather
> >>>>> than reporting things to the community  without concrete evidence
> else it
> >>>>> sends a wrong message.
> >>>>
> >>>> I thought it was more reasonable to notify the community instead of
> >>>> waiting for concrete evidence which may then be misconstrued as 1.
> >>>> concealment or 2. Living in denial.
> >>>
> >>>    You know someone once told the world there were WMD in some
> >>>    country. It was attacked and some years after no WMD were ever
> >>>    found but the damage was done.
> >>>
> >>>    The message i have been trying to send without living this seems
> >>>    like some small issue is that....
> >>>
> >>>    "Privacy breach of nomcom2015's Mailing List"
> >>>
> >>>    VS
> >>>
> >>>    "Configuration error which could lead to access of a private
> maillist"
> >>>
> >>>    Are two different things.....
> >>>
> >>>> From: ...
> >>>>
> https://privacyassociation.org/media/pdf/resource_center/Data_Breach_Response_Whitepaper.pdf
> >>>> ... I understand that the acceptable standard is "immediately".
> >>>>
> >>>> In this case, 1. The Chair made a responsible statement, 2. the
> >>>> community got the right message, 3. The CEO is right on top of the
> >>>> issue, 4. The AGMM discussed and closed the case.
> >>>
> >>>    I rest my case.....
> >>>
> >>>> Cheers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sunday.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>    Cheers
> >>>
> >>>    Noah
> >>>
> >>>
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