[members-discuss] Re: [rpd] Privacy breach of nomcom2015's Mailing List

[Owen DeLong]

> On Jun 7, 2015, at 11:07 , Omo Oaiya <omo at wacren.net> wrote:
> 
> Definitely odd.  For it not to be odd, you would need a #6 - to explain
> why the archive needed to be downloaded in the first place.

I agree that downloading the archive was poor judgment. I think if you were to ask the gentleman in question you would find that he might think twice about doing this next time he encounters a similar situation.

> I liked Dr. Nii's analogy -  when you go to a man's house and see his
> door open, you don't go into his bedroom and take his property and give
> it to your best friends even if they know the man.  Or do you?

I agree. However, in that case you are depriving the owner of the property access to his things. In this case, the contents of the list were copied, not taken. I’m don’t see this as a meaningful difference, but I can see how men of good conscience could disagree with me about it.

> Even worse when you are a board member seeking re-election.  And I am
> not casting any aspersions, just stating facts.

The board member seeking re-election did not download the data. He received a copy in email from the person who did download it. He did not solicit it. He did not read the email and deleted it without reviewing the contents.

I do not think there are any ethical issues with the conduct of Mr. Elkins in this matter.

Owen

> 
> On 6/7/15 6:09 PM, Mark Elkins wrote:
>> The gent who found the hole...
>> 1 - considers that I have honor and integrity
>> 2 - knows that I served last year as Chair of NomCom
>> 3 - knows I have a technical background
>> 4 - may know me better on a personal basis, better than most other Board
>> Members
>> 5 - knows I will do the right thing.
>> 
>> Perhaps there was nothing odd with his action at all?
>> 
>>   .  .        ___. .__      Posix Systems - (South) Africa.
>> /| /|             / /__       mje at posix.co.za
>> <mailto:mje at posix.co.za>  -  Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
>> / |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS  Tel: +27 12 807 0590
>> <tel:+27%2012%20807%200590>  Cell: +27 82 601 0496
>> <tel:+27%2082%20601%200496>
>> 
>> On 07 Jun 2015, at 12:19, Boubakar Barry <boubakarbarry at gmail.com
>> <mailto:boubakarbarry at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The most odd thing in this is the sharing of the archives with
>>> _selected_ Board members. If there were no malicious intent, alerting
>>> the CEO would have sufficed.
>>> 
>>> Boubakar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz
>>> <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    On 7 Jun 2015 08:11, "Sunday Folayan" <sunday.folayan at afrinic.net
>>>    <mailto:sunday.folayan at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/06/2015 06:40, Noah wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not know which copy of the archive has been privately circulated in
>>>>> the community, and I do not expect to discover that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is why i adviced the board chair Sunday to next time be clear rather
>>>>> than reporting things to the community  without concrete evidence else it
>>>>> sends a wrong message.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought it was more reasonable to notify the community instead of
>>>> waiting for concrete evidence which may then be misconstrued as 1.
>>>> concealment or 2. Living in denial.
>>> 
>>>    You know someone once told the world there were WMD in some
>>>    country. It was attacked and some years after no WMD were ever
>>>    found but the damage was done.
>>> 
>>>    The message i have been trying to send without living this seems
>>>    like some small issue is that....
>>> 
>>>    "Privacy breach of nomcom2015's Mailing List"
>>> 
>>>    VS
>>> 
>>>    "Configuration error which could lead to access of a private maillist"
>>> 
>>>    Are two different things.....
>>> 
>>>> From: ...
>>>> https://privacyassociation.org/media/pdf/resource_center/Data_Breach_Response_Whitepaper.pdf
>>>> ... I understand that the acceptable standard is "immediately".
>>>> 
>>>> In this case, 1. The Chair made a responsible statement, 2. the
>>>> community got the right message, 3. The CEO is right on top of the
>>>> issue, 4. The AGMM discussed and closed the case.
>>> 
>>>    I rest my case.....
>>> 
>>>> Cheers.
>>>> 
>>>> Sunday.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Cheers
>>> 
>>>    Noah
>>> 
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