[rpd] Re: [afnog] A typical case of abuse of our resources!!!

Fri Sep 19 18:33:37 UTC 2014

Hi Sunday,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
> Sent: 19 September 2014 22:25
> To: Keshwarsingh Nadan; Omo Oaiya; Kofi ANSA AKUFO
> Cc: Andrew Alston; AfriNIC Discuss; AfriNIC Resource Policy;
> afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Re: [afnog] A typical case of abuse of our resources!!!
> 
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> Mr Nadan,
> 
> Are we replaying the discussions on the rpd list exactly a year ago?
> 
> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2013/003578.html
> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2013/003592.html
> 

No, Sir.

> .. and many other mails for those who care.
> 
> AfriNIC cannot and should not discuss the details of specific allocations
on
> mailing lists, just because members are asking.
> 
> I think we should let AfriNIC run as an organization, reporting and
responding
> to the community as properly constituted using proper channels.
> 
> I hope we would move on to more productive things, instead of pulling down
> our own RIR.

Our 'own' :-) 

> 
> Sunday.
> 
> 
> On 19/09/2014 18:20, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote:
> > Edit: That was in cote d'ivoire. Djibouti was another story.
> >
> > I still remember while on a phone call with Kofi, it was clear the
> > entire African west coast wanted my skin.
> >
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Keshwarsingh Nadan Sent: 19
> >> September 2014 21:15 To: 'Sunday Folayan'; Omo Oaiya; Kofi ANSA AKUFO
> >> Cc: Andrew Alston; AfriNIC Discuss; AfriNIC Resource Policy;
> >> afnog at afnog.org Subject: RE: [rpd] Re: [afnog] A typical case of
> >> abuse of our resources!!!
> >>
> >> Dear Sunday,
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: rpd-bounces at afrinic.net
> >>> [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] On
> >> Behalf
> >>> Of Sunday Folayan Sent: 19 September 2014 20:21 To: Omo Oaiya; Kofi
> >>> ANSA AKUFO Cc: Andrew Alston; AfriNIC Discuss; AfriNIC Resource
> >>> Policy; afnog at afnog.org Subject: Re: [rpd] Re: [afnog] A typical
> >>> case of abuse of our
> > resources!!!
> >>>
> > Dear Koffi and Omo,
> >
> > I am not holding brief for any applicant or hostmaster, but if a
> > request
> >>> comes,
> > that shows that an LIR can, and will allocate a /12, you want AfriNIC
> > to allocate a /22? Is that the interpretation of 8.3?
> >>>
> >>> Definitely not. Despite that, some of us manage to get larger
> >>> allocations and some aren't able.
> >>>
> > to wit:
> >
> > <BEGIN 8.3> AFRINIC shall apply a slow start mechanism to all new
> > LIRs. With respect
> >>> to
> > allocations made by AFRINIC, the first allocation an LIR receives will
> >> be
> >>> the
> > size of the minimum practical allocation described in Section 8.2
> > (a)
> >>> unless
> > otherwise justified. The slow start policy is used by all RIR's to
> > prevent allocations of
> >> large
> >>> blocks
> > of address space that may then remain substantially unassigned.
> > AFRINIC implements the slow start mechanism in a consistent and fair
> > manner for every LIR, and will apply the same principles and standards
> > to every
> >>> applicant
> > for address space. <END 8.3>
> >
> > What about the last clause ... "unless otherwise justified?". Are you
> >>> saying
> > that: o Applicant did not provide justification
> >>>
> >>> Never, your application would otherwise be rejected.
> >>>
> > o Applicant provided justification but was not ok with hostmasters
> >>>
> >>> Happens most of the time
> >>>
> > o Applicant provided justification and it was ok
> >>>
> >>> Depends on who provides the justification, who works on the request.
> >>>
> > o Applicant provided fraudulent justification o None of the above.
> >
> > Omo's email further gives nuances to some preferential actions, apart
> >> from
> > previous accusations of corruption. What exactly are we dealing with?
> >>>
> >>> Omo's right. Last year I was about to expose corruption cases
> >>> regarding
> >> IPv4
> >>> allocations during the AOB at the AGM, I was threatened to be killed
> >>> if
> >> ever
> >>> I would step into Djibouti.
> >>>
> >>> This year I'm playing home on my playground, we'll see who can stop
> >>> me.
> >
> > Let me summarize Andrew's email again: When a Board begins to reach
> >>> into
> > operational matters not clearly in its charter or schedule, or not
> >>> specifically
> > assigned by policy, it is recipe for disaster.
> >
> > Sunday.
> >
> > On 19/09/2014 16:21, Omo Oaiya wrote:
> >>>>> On 19 September 2014 14:51, Kofi ANSA AKUFO
> <kofi.ansa at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Who approved such huge chunk /12 (over a million IPv4
> >>>>>> addresses) in a first (initial) time request? What does the
> >>>>>> current policies say about such requests? What was the out come
> >>>>>> of the results of hostmasters evaluation?
> >>>>>> Did hostmasters make any recommendation to management?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This connects with the clarity I requested.   Policy seems
> >>>>> to be quite clear to me in AFPUB-2005-v4-001 (8.2 -8.3) but others
> >>>>> might have other interpretation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As much as we want different,  Universities and NRENs are being
> >>>>> treated in line with policy.  Why was this allocation treated
> >>>>> differently?  Are there any others getting preferential treatment
> >>>>> that is not guided by "rule of law"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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