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[AFRINIC-rpd] IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment proposal

madhvi Gokool madhvi at
Wed Sep 11 11:44:00 UTC 2013

Hello Andrew

AFRINIC has not refused IP address space to AFRICAN organisations with
infrastructure based within its service region and customers outside the


On 9/11/13 1:20 PM, Andrew Alston wrote:
> Hi Madhvi,
> Irrespective of my last statements about how nothing in AfriNIC policy
> prevents space being assigned off continent.  It would seem at first
> glance that AfriNIC has actually been assigning space off continent
> anyway, specifically in the case of a particular /12.  While I believe
> this is in line with current policy, it does run contrary to the
> statements you were making, and hence I want to query this and get a
> statement from AfriNIC about this.
> Looking at  This space by AfriNIC database records is
> assigned to a Chinese company care of a company registered in the
> Seychelles.
> The phone numbers on it was Chinese Area code.
> The Email contact domain is registered to a Chinese entity via a Dutch
> entity.
> The contact numbers listed in the database for the Seychelles company are
> dutch.
> So, I'd like to know, was this a assignment simply transferred from
> another database or was it assigned by AfriNIC, and if so when.
> (Considering the other RIR transfers were done years ago, and the creation
> dates on the email address domain show a creation data of the 6th of June
> 2010, this raises questions).
> Because what we are seeing with this, seems to be fly in the face of what
> you have stated below, albeit in line with policy.  I will be the first to
> state though, the database can be misleading and the information
> inaccurate and tells far from a complete story, however, if there are /12s
> leaving the continent as it would appear on this, I'm sure everyone on
> this list would like to know about it.
> Hence, can we please get some explanation on this one?
> Thanks
> Andrew
> On 2013/09/11 2:25 PM, "madhvi Gokool" <madhvi at> wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues
>> Please find below my comments regarding the above post on this mailing
>> list .
>> Registration Services has observed that most members requesting for
>> additional resources are not fully policy compliant at the time of
>> request submission for different reasons(mainly when it comes to
>> registering assignments in the whois DB). Usually the hostmasters assist
>> and coach them in the process of properly registering their used
>> resources and generally the outcome has been positive.
>> During request evaluation, AFRINIC hostmasters verify the assignments
>> registered by the member in the whois database to determine the usage
>> ratio and ensure non-overlapping assignment etcŠ]. Due to the nature of
>> the business of some members, they register the whole pool of their IP
>> allocation as a single assignment. In this case, hostmasters request for
>> either :-
>> a) READ-ONLY/ temporary access toany monitoring system the members have
>> so that they can view the concurrent sessions during peak hours & also
>> the historical data/growthor
>> b) a video conference where member can show them the live graphs. The
>> LIRs get to make accurate projections based on their average growth rate
>> as well & receive allocations that will meet their needs for the next 12
>> months.
>> Hostmasters are aware of the sensitive nature of the information that is
>> shared with them during the evaluation process. A lot of LIR members
>> have security policies in place and we respect that. In the majority of
>> the requests, our members demonstrate how the current allocations are
>> being used (valid assignments) via remote sessions e.g webex or limited
>> duration remote sessions during which hostmasters view the statistics
>> and "coach" the members into submitting the snapshots/graphs that will
>> provide justification to their request.
>> If the LIRs don't have such a system in place, they even propose
>> alternatives in which they could show that the IP addresses are in use ,
>> and AFRINIC collaborated with them & accepted them. The results have
>> been positive in these cases as well.
>> Instead of rejecting requests for non-compliance with the policies, the
>> hostmasters have adopted a "teach and approve" approach to educate the
>> members into how they can manage their IP resources and also to make
>> their future requests as painless as possible.
>> In the case of this particular post on the mailing list, the hostmasters
>> have persevered in encouraging the member to comply with the AFRINIC
>> policies.
>> AFRINIC has again received a request in which an LIR located in its
>> service region has ISPs incorporated outside the AFRINIC service region
>> as customers and the majority of the allocations are assigned to these
>> customers' customers.
>> It so happens that I presented a policy implementation experience report
>> during the most recent AIS meeting in Lusaka in which I elaborated on
>> the issues that Registration Services at AFRINIC encountered including
>> similar to this and tried its best to overcome. The presentation is
>> available at the link below and we at AFRINIC hope that the community
>> will address them & come will clear answers to them.
>> If you have any further queries regarding the policy implementation
>> report, please feel free to post them on the rpd list.
>> lementation-report.pdf
>> Regards
>> Madhvi
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>> Madhvi Gokool                          Tel:   +230 403 51 00
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Madhvi Gokool                          Tel:   +230 403 51 00
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