[AfriNIC-rpd] Proposal: Out of region sales of IPv4 space

Sat Feb 12 10:47:16 UTC 2011

Could someone explain the summary bit that I have highlighted - does it mean the african region has no way of protecting its IP resources? 

>>3.0 Summary
While this policy may seem like a potential way to allow the rest of
the world to pillage the African resources, it can be argued that the
space will be used by foreign entities irrespective of the will of the
African community.  This policy merely allows the African community
to, in some small way, benefit from the resources we have available.
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--- On Sat, 2/12/11, Graham Beneke <graham at apolix.co.za> wrote:

From: Graham Beneke <graham at apolix.co.za>
Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] Proposal: Out of region sales of IPv4 space
To: rpd at afrinic.net
Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 12:23 PM

I think this proposal has merits.

On 10/02/2011 22:32, Mark Elkins wrote:
> It would get AfriNIC faster into the Soft Landing Position - but by
> design - only when most others are already there. I don't see this as
> bad. We'll still have a lot slower burn rate with our soft landing
> proposal than the others.

This policy could effectively allow us to synchronise the triggering of 
our soft landing policy with those in the other regions.

As has been mentioned before:- there is no point in Africa having lots 
of spare IPv4 addresses once the other regions have migrated to IPv6. 
This looks likely at the moment.

> Could make some interesting financial contributions to AfriNIC! - would
> have to be both an inflated first year + membership plus normal yearly
> re-occurring charges (no "Once off" for life deals!)
> (Looking with business eyes - this would financially be a "Good Thing"
> for AfriNIC as a company - ie - to bolster its financial position - as
> long as there is no harm to the region). Build in some restrictions -
> nothing bigger than a /18?  Call it a life-belt. The revenue could help
> our region with more IPv6 education?
>
> Seriously, what would be more useful to African ISP's - a few more IPv4
> addresses or a few more IPv6 workshops (I can justify almost
> anything! :)
>
> Would have to be unopposed by other RIR's? and perhaps others such as
> the NRO and ICANN (They may not like it - but might grudgingly agree).
>
> I personally do have that feeling that we may be sitting around with
> unused IPv4 whilst the rest of the world has long finished dealing
> theirs out - this would most certainly remove that feeling. And handing
> a /8 (or less?) back to IANA would cause in-fighting about who then gets
> some of it.
>
> As I've said elsewhere - I've already been indirectly approached for
> IPv4 address space. I guess others will too - they may not say "No".
> Thinking about similarities to abortion laws - this could be a way of
> non-Africans getting space in a less bad way (ie - with a few less
> casualties)
>
> Anyway - I believe this is all academic....
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 12:39 +0200, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I would like to propose the following policy.
>>
>> 1.0 Summary of the motivation behind this policy:
>>
>> With IANA already developing policies for the transfer of space
>> between RIR’s and with the depletion of IPv4 space in other regions
>> approaching faster and faster every day, there is a high likelyhood
>> that the rest of the world will turn to the unused African allocations
>> for more IPv4 space.  With AfriNIC having enough space to last what
>> amounts to a couple of years, there is sufficient space to allow for
>> sale of a portion of this space outside of the African region.  This
>> will help prevent the situation where foreign entities are trying to
>> grab the space through illicit means, and regulate the distribution of
>> the space while providing some benefit back to the African community.
>>   This policy will also allow for further revenue streams into AfriNIC,
>> which can be used for the active promotion and development of IPv6.
>>   Further more, the policy will prevent a situation where we are
>> sitting with large blocks of unused IPv4 space long after such space
>> becomes useable, due to the rest of the world having migrated to IPv6.
>>
>> 2.0 The proposal:
>>
>> On the date of depletion of IPv4 resources within either the
>> RIPE/APNIC/LACNIC/ARIN regions, AfriNIC will make available space out
>> of a single unallocated /8 for sale to foreign entities.
>>
>> 2.1  Such space will be sold at a premium price, currently for the
>> purposes of this proposal at LIR rate + 100% in order to allow for
>> growth in AfriNIC revenue streams
>> 2.2 The foreign entities applying for this space will have to meet all
>> standard AfriNIC space allocation requirements
>> 2.3 No more than one /8 out of the available AfriNIC space will be
>> made available for this purpose.
>>
>> 3.0 Summary
>>
>> While this policy may seem like a potential way to allow the rest of
>> the world to pillage the African resources, it can be argued that the
>> space will be used by foreign entities irrespective of the will of the
>> African community.  This policy merely allows the African community
>> to, in some small way, benefit from the resources we have available.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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