<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Could someone explain the summary bit that I have highlighted - does it mean the african region has no way of protecting its IP resources? <br><br>>>3.0 Summary<br>While this policy may seem like a potential way to allow the rest of<br>the world to pillage the African resources,<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </span><font style="background-color: rgb(128, 0, 0);" size="4"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(192, 0, 0);">it can be argued that the</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(192, 0, 0);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(192, 0, 0);">space will be used by foreign entities irrespective of the will of the</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color:
rgb(192, 0, 0);"><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(192, 0, 0);">African community</span>.</span></font> This policy merely allows the African community<br>to, in some small way, benefit from the resources we have available.<br><<<<br><br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 2/12/11, Graham Beneke <i><graham@apolix.co.za></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Graham Beneke <graham@apolix.co.za><br>Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] Proposal: Out of region sales of IPv4 space<br>To: rpd@afrinic.net<br>Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 12:23 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">I think this proposal has merits.<br><br>On 10/02/2011 22:32, Mark Elkins wrote:<br>> It would get AfriNIC faster into the Soft Landing Position - but by<br>> design - only when most others are already there. I don't see this
as<br>> bad. We'll still have a lot slower burn rate with our soft landing<br>> proposal than the others.<br><br>This policy could effectively allow us to synchronise the triggering of <br>our soft landing policy with those in the other regions.<br><br>As has been mentioned before:- there is no point in Africa having lots <br>of spare IPv4 addresses once the other regions have migrated to IPv6. <br>This looks likely at the moment.<br><br>> Could make some interesting financial contributions to AfriNIC! - would<br>> have to be both an inflated first year + membership plus normal yearly<br>> re-occurring charges (no "Once off" for life deals!)<br>> (Looking with business eyes - this would financially be a "Good Thing"<br>> for AfriNIC as a company - ie - to bolster its financial position - as<br>> long as there is no harm to the region). Build in some restrictions -<br>> nothing bigger than a /18? Call it a life-belt. The
revenue could help<br>> our region with more IPv6 education?<br>><br>> Seriously, what would be more useful to African ISP's - a few more IPv4<br>> addresses or a few more IPv6 workshops (I can justify almost<br>> anything! :)<br>><br>> Would have to be unopposed by other RIR's? and perhaps others such as<br>> the NRO and ICANN (They may not like it - but might grudgingly agree).<br>><br>> I personally do have that feeling that we may be sitting around with<br>> unused IPv4 whilst the rest of the world has long finished dealing<br>> theirs out - this would most certainly remove that feeling. And handing<br>> a /8 (or less?) back to IANA would cause in-fighting about who then gets<br>> some of it.<br>><br>> As I've said elsewhere - I've already been indirectly approached for<br>> IPv4 address space. I guess others will too - they may not say "No".<br>> Thinking about similarities to abortion laws -
this could be a way of<br>> non-Africans getting space in a less bad way (ie - with a few less<br>> casualties)<br>><br>> Anyway - I believe this is all academic....<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 12:39 +0200, Andrew Alston wrote:<br>>> Hi All,<br>>><br>>> I would like to propose the following policy.<br>>><br>>> 1.0 Summary of the motivation behind this policy:<br>>><br>>> With IANA already developing policies for the transfer of space<br>>> between RIR’s and with the depletion of IPv4 space in other regions<br>>> approaching faster and faster every day, there is a high likelyhood<br>>> that the rest of the world will turn to the unused African allocations<br>>> for more IPv4 space. With AfriNIC having enough space to last what<br>>> amounts to a couple of years, there is sufficient space to allow for<br>>> sale of a portion of this
space outside of the African region. This<br>>> will help prevent the situation where foreign entities are trying to<br>>> grab the space through illicit means, and regulate the distribution of<br>>> the space while providing some benefit back to the African community.<br>>> This policy will also allow for further revenue streams into AfriNIC,<br>>> which can be used for the active promotion and development of IPv6.<br>>> Further more, the policy will prevent a situation where we are<br>>> sitting with large blocks of unused IPv4 space long after such space<br>>> becomes useable, due to the rest of the world having migrated to IPv6.<br>>><br>>> 2.0 The proposal:<br>>><br>>> On the date of depletion of IPv4 resources within either the<br>>> RIPE/APNIC/LACNIC/ARIN regions, AfriNIC will make available space out<br>>> of a single
unallocated /8 for sale to foreign entities.<br>>><br>>> 2.1 Such space will be sold at a premium price, currently for the<br>>> purposes of this proposal at LIR rate + 100% in order to allow for<br>>> growth in AfriNIC revenue streams<br>>> 2.2 The foreign entities applying for this space will have to meet all<br>>> standard AfriNIC space allocation requirements<br>>> 2.3 No more than one /8 out of the available AfriNIC space will be<br>>> made available for this purpose.<br>>><br>>> 3.0 Summary<br>>><br>>> While this policy may seem like a potential way to allow the rest of<br>>> the world to pillage the African resources, it can be argued that the<br>>> space will be used by foreign entities irrespective of the will of the<br>>> African community. This policy merely allows the African community<br>>> to, in some small way, benefit from the
resources we have available.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> rpd mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" href="/mc/compose?to=rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> rpd mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" href="/mc/compose?to=rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</a><br><br><br>-- <br>Graham Beneke<br><a ymailto="mailto:graham@apolix.co.za" href="/mc/compose?to=graham@apolix.co.za">graham@apolix.co.za</a> | Apolix Internet Services<br>Tel :
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