[AfriNIC-rpd] Re: Return of Policy Proposal RPD Mailinglist: Abuse Contact Information in the AfriNIC Service Region

[Borg]

On 6 July 2010 21:45, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
> I am not a stakeholder in this region, so, you are welcome to take or leave
> my advice.


Since there is only one Internet ... valuable contributions are welcome from
all corners.


> However, it is my not so humble opinion that down this road
> lies madness.
>
> Owen
>
> I will now attempt to return to lurker mode.
>

On the contrary ... the lurkers like us need one of us to come out once in a
while and speak. It would be very sad if a proposal simpley passed without
debate . So ... permission to return to lurker base denied. :-)


>
> On Jul 6, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Tobias Knecht wrote:
>
> > Hello again,
> >
> >>> Are there any questions about the intent of this policy proposal?
> >>
> >> I am curious as to why you are still pushing this obviously unwanted
> >> idea?  How does this help your working model/biz model?
> >
> > Because it is needed! And it is not changing our working model/biz model
> > in either way. It is helping the idea of "Global Reporting" and it's
> > helping the idea of collaboration between ISPs and network owners.
> >
> > I'm pushing this idea, because I'm certain about it. I have seen that
> > collaboration works, that Global Reporting works, that publishing the
> > correct abuse handling contacts and handling the incoming abuse
> > complaints helps network owners to clean up their network.
> >
> > In addition I have not heard any arguments that told me it is a bad
> > idea, quite the contrary. And the argument we have done it that way for
> > the last 15 years is not an argument, it's an excuse for doing nothing.
> >
> > So I'm absolutely happy to hear your arguments about this proposal and
> > discuss with you and any other person why it is important to implement
> > this proposal.
> >
> >> I still think you are ignoring the realities of object creation in the
> >> AfriNIC region (we don't do it for the most part, even when we
> >> should).
> >
> > Just because it is like it is at the moment does first of all not imply
> > that it is good. And in addition it does not imply that it has to be
> > that way in future.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tobias
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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