[Community-Discuss] ICANN ( NRO ) vs LARUS (NRA)

[Ibeanusi Elvis]

Like Lamiaa pointed out the goal still evidently remains the same but the
method at which we aim to achieve it is and might be different but securing
the continent is a top priority.

In addition, let’s stop this naming callings that has been happening on
this thread and on other threads and focus on having an educated and
learned conversation without violating the CoD.

Thanks,
Elvis.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 22:58 Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:


> Please leave me out of it

>

> Noah and I are able to have a civilised conversation and a respectful

> disagreement, without third parties trying to stoke some imagined grievance.

>

>

> On 2 Aug 2021, at 13:11, Anthony Ubah <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> +1 @Mike

>

> Agression and name calling has gradually become the order of the day.

>

>

> On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 4:44 AM Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Hi Noah

>>

>> Without getting into the content of your mail and without endorsing the

>> specific language chosen by Owen: The RIRs are independent and ICANN does

>> not in any way direct or control the RIRs.

>>

>> The RIRs chose to operate within the ICANN framework, however can move

>> the NRO / ASO out of ICANN at any time (including moving the contract out

>> of PTI as well).

>>

>> So I would not characterise ICANN as “puppet” of the NRO - but rather a

>> framework within which an independent NRO choses to operate. That may be a

>> distinction without a difference - so I am not offended by Owen’s choice of

>> words.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>> On 2 Aug 2021, at 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

>>

>> Owen,

>>

>> I have some questions for you...

>>

>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:43 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, <

>> community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> While people often mistake ICANN for some form of authority, the reality

>>> is that for number

>>> resources, ICANN is a puppet at the end of the strings pulled by the NRO

>>> (which acts in the

>>> role of ICANN ASO).

>>>

>>

>> Your association with LARUS has really got you off the rails.

>>

>> No wonder Larus has created the so called purported organization called

>> the *Number Resource Alliance* aka NRA  whose website is

>> https://www.nra.help/

>>

>> Since you claim that ICANN is a puppet of the NRO, and not an authority,

>> is that why your LARUS which is linked to Cloud Innovation Ltd created this

>> so called *NRA* organisation.

>>

>> Are IPv4 brokers now forming their own system?  Against ICANN and the

>> NRO?

>>

>> I ask because your sentiments that ICANN is a puppet are really wanting.

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Noah

>>

>>

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