[Community-Discuss] ICANN ( NRO ) vs LARUS (NRA)

Mike Silber silber.mike at gmail.com
Mon Aug 2 13:55:37 UTC 2021


Please leave me out of it

Noah and I are able to have a civilised conversation and a respectful disagreement, without third parties trying to stoke some imagined grievance.



> On 2 Aug 2021, at 13:11, Anthony Ubah <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com> wrote:

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> +1 @Mike

>

> Agression and name calling has gradually become the order of the day.

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> On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 4:44 AM Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hi Noah

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> Without getting into the content of your mail and without endorsing the specific language chosen by Owen: The RIRs are independent and ICANN does not in any way direct or control the RIRs.

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> The RIRs chose to operate within the ICANN framework, however can move the NRO / ASO out of ICANN at any time (including moving the contract out of PTI as well).

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> So I would not characterise ICANN as “puppet” of the NRO - but rather a framework within which an independent NRO choses to operate. That may be a distinction without a difference - so I am not offended by Owen’s choice of words.

>

> Mike

>

>> On 2 Aug 2021, at 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:

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>> Owen,

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>> I have some questions for you...

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>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:43 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, <community-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>> wrote:

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>> While people often mistake ICANN for some form of authority, the reality is that for number

>> resources, ICANN is a puppet at the end of the strings pulled by the NRO (which acts in the

>> role of ICANN ASO).

>>

>> Your association with LARUS has really got you off the rails.

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>> No wonder Larus has created the so called purported organization called the *Number Resource Alliance* aka NRA whose website is https://www.nra.help/ <https://www.nra.help/>

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>> Since you claim that ICANN is a puppet of the NRO, and not an authority, is that why your LARUS which is linked to Cloud Innovation Ltd created this so called *NRA* organisation.

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>> Are IPv4 brokers now forming their own system? Against ICANN and the NRO?

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>> I ask because your sentiments that ICANN is a puppet are really wanting.

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>> Cheers,

>> Noah

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