[Community-Discuss] ICANN ( NRO ) vs LARUS (NRA)

[Owen DeLong]

Mike, that’s fair, but that framework is also set up such that icann performs its functions related to the ASO entirely under policies and dirrctives issued to it by the NRO/ASO (although formally ratified by the ICANN board), and that’s why I used the term puppet. 

Owen


> On Aug 2, 2021, at 01:42, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> Hi Noah

> 

> Without getting into the content of your mail and without endorsing the specific language chosen by Owen: The RIRs are independent and ICANN does not in any way direct or control the RIRs.

> 

> The RIRs chose to operate within the ICANN framework, however can move the NRO / ASO out of ICANN at any time (including moving the contract out of PTI as well).

> 

> So I would not characterise ICANN as “puppet” of the NRO - but rather a framework within which an independent NRO choses to operate. That may be a distinction without a difference - so I am not offended by Owen’s choice of words.

> 

> Mike

> 

>> On 2 Aug 2021, at 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

>> 

>> Owen,

>> 

>> I have some questions for you...

>> 

>>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:43 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, <community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:

>>> 

>>> While people often mistake ICANN for some form of authority, the reality is that for number

>>> resources, ICANN is a puppet at the end of the strings pulled by the NRO (which acts in the

>>> role of ICANN ASO).

>> 

>> 

>> Your association with LARUS has really got you off the rails.

>> 

>> No wonder Larus has created the so called purported organization called the *Number Resource Alliance* aka NRA  whose website is  https://www.nra.help/

>> 

>> Since you claim that ICANN is a puppet of the NRO, and not an authority, is that why your LARUS which is linked to Cloud Innovation Ltd created this so called *NRA* organisation.

>> 

>> Are IPv4 brokers now forming their own system?  Against ICANN and the NRO? 

>> 

>> I ask because your sentiments that ICANN is a puppet are really wanting.

>> 

>> Cheers,

>> Noah

>> 

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