[Community-Discuss] ICANN ( NRO ) vs LARUS (NRA)

[Sylvain Baya]

Dear AfriNIC's Community,

Le lundi 2 août 2021, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> a écrit :


> Hi Mike

>

>

Hi Noah,

Thanks for your email, brother!

...it's time to learn about the RIR system's history.




> Thank you for your reply and opinion on the matter.

>

> I am personally offended by Owens choice of words against ICANN.

>

> The existence of an RIR is only possible through ICANN ICP-2  and for him

> to refer to ICANN as a puppet is offending.

>

> AFRINIC would not have existed without the ICANN structures.

>



Exact!

For those who need an anchor to start with,
please look at RFC7020:

The Internet Numbers Registry System

<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7020>

Shalom,
--sb.



>

> Noah

>

> On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, 11:42 Mike Silber, <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Hi Noah

>>

>> Without getting into the content of your mail and without endorsing the

>> specific language chosen by Owen: The RIRs are independent and ICANN does

>> not in any way direct or control the RIRs.

>>

>> The RIRs chose to operate within the ICANN framework, however can move

>> the NRO / ASO out of ICANN at any time (including moving the contract out

>> of PTI as well).

>>

>> So I would not characterise ICANN as “puppet” of the NRO - but rather a

>> framework within which an independent NRO choses to operate. That may be a

>> distinction without a difference - so I am not offended by Owen’s choice of

>> words.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>> On 2 Aug 2021, at 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

>>

>> Owen,

>>

>> I have some questions for you...

>>

>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:43 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, <

>> community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> While people often mistake ICANN for some form of authority, the reality

>>> is that for number

>>> resources, ICANN is a puppet at the end of the strings pulled by the NRO

>>> (which acts in the

>>> role of ICANN ASO).

>>>

>>

>> Your association with LARUS has really got you off the rails.

>>

>> No wonder Larus has created the so called purported organization called

>> the *Number Resource Alliance* aka NRA  whose website is

>> https://www.nra.help/

>>

>> Since you claim that ICANN is a puppet of the NRO, and not an authority,

>> is that why your LARUS which is linked to Cloud Innovation Ltd created this

>> so called *NRA* organisation.

>>

>> Are IPv4 brokers now forming their own system?  Against ICANN and the

>> NRO?

>>

>> I ask because your sentiments that ICANN is a puppet are really wanting.

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Noah

>>

>>

>> [...]

>>

>>

>>


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