[Community-Discuss] ICANN ( NRO ) vs LARUS (NRA)

[Noah]

Hi Mike

Thank you for your reply and opinion on the matter.

I am personally offended by Owens choice of words against ICANN.

The existence of an RIR is only possible through ICANN ICP-2  and for him
to refer to ICANN as a puppet is offending.

AFRINIC would not have existed without the ICANN structures.

Noah

On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, 11:42 Mike Silber, <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:


> Hi Noah

>

> Without getting into the content of your mail and without endorsing the

> specific language chosen by Owen: The RIRs are independent and ICANN does

> not in any way direct or control the RIRs.

>

> The RIRs chose to operate within the ICANN framework, however can move the

> NRO / ASO out of ICANN at any time (including moving the contract out of

> PTI as well).

>

> So I would not characterise ICANN as “puppet” of the NRO - but rather a

> framework within which an independent NRO choses to operate. That may be a

> distinction without a difference - so I am not offended by Owen’s choice of

> words.

>

> Mike

>

> On 2 Aug 2021, at 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

>

> Owen,

>

> I have some questions for you...

>

> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:43 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, <

> community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:

>

>>

>> While people often mistake ICANN for some form of authority, the reality

>> is that for number

>> resources, ICANN is a puppet at the end of the strings pulled by the NRO

>> (which acts in the

>> role of ICANN ASO).

>>

>

> Your association with LARUS has really got you off the rails.

>

> No wonder Larus has created the so called purported organization called

> the *Number Resource Alliance* aka NRA  whose website is

> https://www.nra.help/

>

> Since you claim that ICANN is a puppet of the NRO, and not an authority,

> is that why your LARUS which is linked to Cloud Innovation Ltd created this

> so called *NRA* organisation.

>

> Are IPv4 brokers now forming their own system?  Against ICANN and the NRO?

>

> I ask because your sentiments that ICANN is a puppet are really wanting.

>

> Cheers,

> Noah

>

>

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