[Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

[Christian Orozco]

I participate in these discussions knowing there will be others whose
points will differ from mine and I respect that. I cannot tag them as
'senseless' or just some people who 'force' their thoughts just because I
cannot make them be on my side. Moreover, there are many ways of supporting
AFRINIC. As a matter of fact, others who get to pinpoint AFRINIC's flaws
are *supporters* of AFRINIC still! As Owen said, the CORRECTION of behavior
is what's being sought.


Regards,
Christian





On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 5:58 AM Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com> wrote:


> I would like to invite the community to stop responding to the CI Staff on

> this matter.  I have the impression that they are using us to find

> fallacious arguments to use against Afrinic while seeking to stuff our

> heads with their mistaken and incongruous understanding of Afrinic's

> texts.  The case is before justice, we just have to support Afrinic and

> ignore the henchmen of CI in their games of destruction and lies.

>

> French :

>

> Je voudrais inviter la communauté à ne plus répondre au Staff de CI sur

> cette affaire. J'ai l'impression qu'il nous utilise pour trouver des

> arguments fallacieux à utiliser contre Afrinic tout en cherchant à nous

> bourrer le crâne deleur compréhension erronée et incongrue des textes

> d'Afrinic. L'affaire est devant la justice, soutenons Afrinic et ignorons

> les sbires de CI à leur jeux de destruction et de mensonge.

>

> Regards

>

> --

> Arnaud

>

>

> Le sam. 31 juil. 2021 à 18:54, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <

> community-discuss at afrinic.net> a écrit :

>

>>

>>

>> > On Jul 30, 2021, at 23:27 , Ish Sookun <ish.sookun at lasentinelle.mu>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> > Not only this situation allowed to us to know who is supporting AFRINIC

>> but

>> > also bring forward those who would not hesitate to destroy the

>> organization

>> > for commercial end.

>> >

>>

>> I think you are confused. Certainly, at no point have I sought the

>> destruction of

>> AFRINIC. Indeed, any potential destruction of AFRINIC is the direct

>> result of the

>> inevitable reaction when AFRINIC sought to destroy another company and

>> that

>> company availed itself of the legal system in defense of its contractual

>> rights.

>>

>> Had AFRINIC stuck to its governing documents as written, rather than

>> choosing

>> to invent restrictions which are not codified therein and use those as an

>> artifice

>> to take adverse action against a resource member, there would be no basis

>> for any of the current legal claims by Cloud Innovation.

>>

>> I still do not seek the destruction of AFRINIC, but rather the correction

>> of its

>> behaviors. While I am not a fan of some of the things Cloud Innovation has

>> done, I see an RIR that does not operate according to its governing

>> documents

>> as a much greater threat to the community than anything any resource

>> member

>> has or could do.

>>

>> Owen

>>

>> > Regards,

>> >

>> > --

>> > Ish Sookun

>> >

>> > On Friday, 30 July 2021 22:49:36 +04 Sami Salih wrote:

>> >> Thanks Noah this is really important, we need to know who is

>> supporting our

>> >> organization in this hard time.

>> >>

>> >> Get Outlook for

>> >> Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

>> >>

>> >> ________________________________

>> >> From: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>

>> >> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 2:35:38 PM

>> >> To: AfriNIC Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>; General

>> Discussions of

>> >> AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net> Subject: [Community-Discuss]

>> South

>> >> Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

>> >>

>> >> Dear Members and the wider AFRICAN Community.

>> >>

>> >> I note that the ISP Association of South Africa has made a public

>> statement

>> >> as well following TISPA'S public statement on recent AFRINIC

>> developments.

>> >>

>> >> I thought it was important to share the same with the rest of you in

>> case

>> >> you missed this important message since ISPA South Africa represents

>> the

>> >> large voice of AFRINIC members in South Africa.

>> >>

>> >> So for those who are trying to show doubt that there is a loss of

>> confidence

>> >> in AFRINIC, the statement from ISPA-ZA should show you all that the

>> >> industry representative body for ISPs in South Africa does not suffer

>> from

>> >> a loss of faith in AFRINIC.

>> >>

>> >> You can read the important statement via the link below.

>> >>

>> >>

>> https://ispa.org.za/press_releases/ispa-statement-on-recent-afrinic-developments

>> >>

>> >> Cheers,

>> >> Noah

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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