[Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Arnaud AMELINA amelnaud at gmail.com
Sun Mar 25 18:53:57 UTC 2018


Owen,

In what capacity are you writting?  as a simple community member or
 Reverend Sunday's lawyer?

The reason i ask is because the ardor you put in defending the defendants
surprises me a lot.

Why don't you let the reverend defend himself! He is mature enough and has
been chairing the board for a while.

As usual you are trying to play the devil, but the current scenario
requires care and a sense of responsibility as the attitude one would
expect from an ARIN AC member.

Please let this community shows you how we handle issues which may differ
from where you come fom.

Accept the difference and learn for once.

Regards

Arnaud


Le ven. 23 mars 2018 20:51, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> a écrit :

>
> On Mar 22, 2018, at 21:41 , Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> One becomes a board member as result of the will of the community through
> an election.  The ultimate owner of AFRINIC is the community.
>
>
> Technically, this is not quite accurate. One becomes a board member by the
> result of an election by the resource members, not the community. The
> community is a much larger body.
>
> The community is saying it has lost faith in the office bearer
> investigation or not since what the office bearer has admitted to is enough
> for community to feel he is no longer suitable.
>
>
> Again, this is also not quite true. Some members of the community are
> saying this, but no objective deterministic research has been presented
> showing that this position is held by a majority of the community.
>
> The office bearer also has an allegation which is personal and that needs
> to be investigated since it has far reaching implications to the
> individuals involved.
>
>
> At least there is one true statement in your email.
>
> The community is saying we need to move and he steps aside deals with his
> issues without affecting AFRINIC business. I think this is only fare.
>
>
> Some members of the community are saying this. Other members are calling
> for a rational approach to a valid and fair investigation and due process.
>
> However at the moment we are all being held hostage due to decisions made
> earlier.
>
>
> This is simply sensationalism which has no legitimate place in the
> discussion. Nobody is being held hostage. I realize that it is popular to
> use this term as rhetoric in AfriNIC discussions, but really, there are no
> prisoners here. There are no hostages. The due process is being followed
> with reasonable deliberate haste.
>
> We need to move
>
>
> What kind of movement are you seeking? Do you propose that we gather a
> lynch mob and take out all of those who are accused without bothering to
> investigate or establish the true facts of the situation?
>
> I’m sure this would satisfy the more vocal members of the community, but I
> do not think it would shine a positive light on AfriNIC going forward.
>
> I am very happy to see the current leadership attempting to continue with
> due process under the circumstances despite the mob mentality being
> expressed on this and other lists.
>
> Owen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 23 Mar 2018, at 07:33, Sunday Olutayo <olutayo at olutayo.ng> wrote:
>
> Why is judgment being pass without investigation and hearing? Why are some
> people eager to be the hangmen without due process? I believe in justice,
> and it can only be obtained or dispersed through due process.
>
> We can not be passing judgment of yet to be proofed allegations. So let
> follow due process, the independent committee should it work.
>
> Regards,
> Sunday Olutayo
> On Mar 22, 2018 11:39 AM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, 5:57 p.m. Wayne Diamond, <wayne at domains.co.za> wrote:
>
>
> Some body from the AfriNic board that is *NOT* implicated in either the
> harassment or breach of NDA needs to take control *now* and make a
> decisive statement to the community in the very near future (as in 72
> hours) in order to inform the community of what is being done about each of
> the issues.
>
> Thanks Wayne....
>
> And to be pricise we have below board members who seem to lack cohesion
> but i could be wrong.
>
> Mr.Masilela Lucky
> Mr.Abibu Ntagihiye
> Mr.Bope Christian
> Mr.Ilunga Serge
> Mr.Ojedeji Seun
> Mr.Subramanian Moonesamy
> Mr.Alan Barrett (ex-officio)
>
> The reputation of AfriNic and the community cannot wait until the end of
> April for an investigation to start.
>
> +++1
>
>
>
> To the board that are not involved in either, get your act together
> quickly or step down for a new interim board to be appointed in order to
> resolve this but this cannot continue any longer in this manner.
>
>
> +++1
>
> Noah
>
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