<div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto">Owen,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In what capacity are you writting? as a simple community member or Reverend Sunday's lawyer?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The reason i ask is because the ardor you put in defending the defendants surprises me a lot. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Why don't you let the reverend defend himself! He is mature enough and has been chairing the board for a while.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As usual you are trying to play the devil, but the current scenario requires care and a sense of responsibility as the attitude one would expect from an ARIN AC member.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please let this community shows you how we handle issues which may differ from where you come fom.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Accept the difference and learn for once.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Arnaud </div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le ven. 23 mars 2018 20:51, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 22, 2018, at 21:41 , Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_5905720469234879626Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<div>The community is saying it has lost faith in the office bearer investigation or not since what the office bearer has admitted to is enough for community to feel he is no longer suitable. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Again, this is also not quite true. Some members of the community are saying this, but no objective deterministic research has been presented showing that this position is held by a majority of the community.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">
<div>The office bearer also has an allegation which is personal and that needs to be investigated since it has far reaching implications to the individuals involved. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>At least there is one true statement in your email.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">
<div>The community is saying we need to move and he steps aside deals with his issues without affecting AFRINIC business. I think this is only fare. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Some members of the community are saying this. Other members are calling for a rational approach to a valid and fair investigation and due process.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">
<div>However at the moment we are all being held hostage due to decisions made earlier. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>This is simply sensationalism which has no legitimate place in the discussion. Nobody is being held hostage. I realize that it is popular to use this term as rhetoric in AfriNIC discussions, but really, there are no prisoners here. There are no hostages. The due process is being followed with reasonable deliberate haste.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">
<div>We need to move </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>What kind of movement are you seeking? Do you propose that we gather a lynch mob and take out all of those who are accused without bothering to investigate or establish the true facts of the situation?</div><div><br></div><div>I’m sure this would satisfy the more vocal members of the community, but I do not think it would shine a positive light on AfriNIC going forward.</div><div><br></div><div>I am very happy to see the current leadership attempting to continue with due process under the circumstances despite the mob mentality being expressed on this and other lists.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">
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On 23 Mar 2018, at 07:33, Sunday Olutayo <<a href="mailto:olutayo@olutayo.ng" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">olutayo@olutayo.ng</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><p dir="ltr">Why is judgment being pass without investigation and hearing? Why are some people eager to be the hangmen without due process? I believe in justice, and it can only be obtained or dispersed through due process.</p><p dir="ltr">We can not be passing judgment of yet to be proofed allegations. So let follow due process, the independent committee should it work.</p><p dir="ltr">Regards,<br>
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<div>And to be pricise we have below board members who seem to lack cohesion but i could be wrong.</div>
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<div>Mr.Abibu Ntagihiye</div>
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