[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 91, Issue 38

[Calvin Browne]

You've got a quote on the insurance costs? 

--Calvin

On 28 September 2014 7:37:48 PM SAST, Victor Ndonnang <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> wrote:
>Dear Remmy,
>
> 
>
>I 100% agree with on the fact that more awareness, communication and
>marketing activities are needed
>But the insurance and financial
>requirements
>of the ICANN RAA is not an “non-existing” excuse for developing
>countries/African companies willing to become accredited registrars.
>
> 
>
>Tell me how many serious companies in Africa can easily obtain
>“commercial
>general liability insurance” of $500,000? Zero! Most of the 7 active
>African
>accredited registrars became accredited through an US or European based
>satellite or partner (
>I’m not saying that partnership is not
>good)
>.How
>many serious companies in Africa can easily demonstrate the ability to
>procure liquid working capital of $70,000? Just to do a domain name
>business
> Very few. But all those requirements can be easily fulfill by
>an
>US based start-up simply because this works for the US economic and
>insurance environments. One last thing the “commercial general
>liability
>insurance” has nothing to do with the “seriousness” of the company
>willing
>to become Accredited registrar. Experts on insurance policies can
>explain
>more
>
>
> 
>
>I would end by asking one more time African’s ccTLDs to do  more
>efforts
>(Communication, marketing/publicity) to promote their business and add
>value
>to it. They should also listen to their local potential customers
>rather
>than ignoring what they think. People are willing to keep the money
>local
>but
>
>
> 
>
>Happy Sunday to you all!
>
>Best regards,
>
>Victor.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net
>[mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] On
>Behalf Of Remmy Nweke
>Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:47 PM
>To: africann at afrinic.net
>Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 91, Issue 38
>
> 
>
>Dear el and others
>
>happy Sunday,
>
>I think the request for insurance for registrars is a just reassurance
>that
>such registrar seeking accreditation etc is serious. So, I do not see
>why
>people should see that as barrier, but the truth remains that a few
>registrar invest in marketing/publicity of their businesses or kind of
>businesses.
>
>A good example is what one registrar in Nigeria - Upperlink did with
>its
>license; running publicity campaign. I hope that should be a lesson to
>others. We should stop looking for excuses where non exist.
>
>regards
>
>Remmy Nweke
>
> 
>
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>   1. RE: Statment of the joint meeting of African      community
>      (Victor Ndonnang)
>   2. Re: Statment of the joint meeting of African      community
>      (Dr Eberhard W Lisse)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:49:16 -0400
>From: "Victor Ndonnang" <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz
><mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> >
>Subject: RE: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of
>        African community
>To: "'Dr Eberhard W Lisse'" <el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >, "
>'Ol?vi?
>Kouami' "
>        <olivierkouami at gmail.com <mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com> >
>Cc: africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> 
>Message-ID: <008a01cfdb2b$614c22d0$23e46870$@nvconsulting.biz
><http://nvconsulting.biz> >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>I don’t think so
> This is coming from those who want to keep the market
>for
>themselves and keep the reseller model because it is good for their
>business.
>
>Let’s break the barriers and see what will happen
>
>
>Some will say developing countries ccTLDs are not doing quite well
>Yes,
>I
>agree; but the reason is simple, there are doing zero effort to promote
>their business.
>
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Victor.
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> ]
>Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:40 PM
>To: Olévié Kouami
>Cc: africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> ; Victor
>Ndonnang
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of
>African
>community
>
>
>
>I think this is the point.
>
>
>
>The insurance is being claimed as Barrier to Entry to becoming
>accredited as
>Registrar.
>
>
>
>So far it looks as this is not the case.
>
>
>
>el
>
>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
>
>On Sep 27, 2014, at 21:48, Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com
><mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com>  <mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com
><mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com> > > wrote:
>
>Hi Eberhard,
>
>
>
>Please, paying for what and to whom ?
>
>I want to understand what you mean.
>
>Cheers !
>
>-Olévié-
>
>
>
>2014-09-25 14:17 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
><mailto:el at lisse.na>  <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> > >:
>
>Yes,
>
>I am starting to do the research required before drafting a message.
>
>It would be really helpful to find out how much African applicants have
>been quoted and/or are paying.
>
>greetings, el
>
>on 2014-09-24, 22:49 Olévié Kouami said the following:
>> Hi !
>> I'm following up this debate which seem to me very interesting;
>> Please, let's move forward in acting.
>> Cheers !
>> -Olévié-
>>
>>
>> 2014-09-24 12:25 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
><mailto:el at lisse.na>  <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >
>> <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na>  <mailto:el at lisse.na
><mailto:el at lisse.na> > >>:
>>
>>     Way ahead of you, but not ready for public consumption, yet
>>
>>     Never mind that Public Forum is verbal.
>>
>>     el
>>
>>     on 2014-09-24, 14:23 Victor Ndonnang said the following:
>>     > Good suggestion. Can you draft the message?
>>     >
>>     > ************
>>     > Victor Ndonnang
>>     [...]
>
>[...]
>
>--
>Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse  \        / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar)
>el at lisse.NA <mailto:el at lisse.NA>  <mailto:el at lisse.NA
><mailto:el at lisse.NA> >
>/ *     |   Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 <tel:%2B264%2081%20124%206733>
>(cell)
>PO Box 8421             \     /
>Bachbrecht, Namibia     ;____/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Olévié Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI
>Responsable projet CERGI-Education (http://www.cergibs.com)
>CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
>SG de ESTETIC  (http://www.estetic.tg)
>Membre de ISoc (www.isoc.org <http://www.isoc.org> 
><http://www.isoc.org>
><http://www.isoc.org/>) & du FOSSFA (
>www.fossfa.net <http://www.fossfa.net>  <http://www.fossfa.net> )
>ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et
>http://www.npoc.org/)
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>Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:32:55 +0200
>From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of
>        African community
>To: "<ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz <mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> >"
><ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz <mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> >
>Cc: "<africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> >"
><africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> >
>Message-ID: <921AFDC6-7027-4254-A191-5B5B7392F5F8 at lisse.na
><mailto:921AFDC6-7027-4254-A191-5B5B7392F5F8 at lisse.na> >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>Fortunately what you think doesn't matter.
>
>My research is not finished, however. And, hence, until I have the
>facts and
>figures I shall not say much about it.
>
>ccTLDs are Registers not Registrars, and their lack of promotion of
>their
>ccTLD is the least contributory factor.
>
>el
>
>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 16:49, Victor Ndonnang <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz
><mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> > wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think so
> This is coming from those who want to keep the
>market
>for themselves and keep the reseller model because it is good for their
>business.
>> Let’s break the barriers and see what will happen
>
>> Some will say developing countries ccTLDs are not doing quite
>well
>Yes, I
>agree; but the reason is simple, there are doing zero effort to promote
>their business.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Victor.
>>
>>
>> From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> ]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:40 PM
>> To: Olévié Kouami
>> Cc: africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> ; Victor
>Ndonnang
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of
>African
>community
>>
>> I think this is the point.
>>
>> The insurance is being claimed as Barrier to Entry to becoming
>accredited
>as Registrar.
>>
>> So far it looks as this is not the case.
>>
>> el
>>
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 21:48, Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com
><mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eberhard,
>>
>> Please, paying for what and to whom ?
>> I want to understand what you mean.
>> Cheers !
>> -Olévié-
>>
>> 2014-09-25 14:17 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
><mailto:el at lisse.na> >:
>> Yes,
>>
>> I am starting to do the research required before drafting a message.
>>
>> It would be really helpful to find out how much African applicants
>have
>> been quoted and/or are paying.
>>
>> greetings, el
>>
>> on 2014-09-24, 22:49 Olévié Kouami said the following:
>> > Hi !
>> > I'm following up this debate which seem to me very interesting;
>> > Please, let's move forward in acting.
>> > Cheers !
>> > -Olévié-
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-09-24 12:25 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
><mailto:el at lisse.na> 
>> > <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >>:
>> >
>> >     Way ahead of you, but not ready for public consumption, yet
>> >
>> >     Never mind that Public Forum is verbal.
>> >
>> >     el
>> >
>> >     on 2014-09-24, 14:23 Victor Ndonnang said the following:
>> >     > Good suggestion. Can you draft the message?
>> >     >
>> >     > ************
>> >     > Victor Ndonnang
>> >     [...]
>> [...]
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse  \        / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar)
>> el at lisse.NA <mailto:el at lisse.NA>             / *     |   Telephone:
>+264
>81 124 6733 (cell)
>> PO Box 8421             \     /
>> Bachbrecht, Namibia     ;____/
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olévié Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI
>> Responsable projet CERGI-Education (http://www.cergibs.com)
>> CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
>> SG de ESTETIC  (http://www.estetic.tg)
>> Membre de ISoc (www.isoc.org <http://www.isoc.org>
><http://www.isoc.org/>) & du FOSSFA (
>> www.fossfa.net <http://www.fossfa.net> )
>> ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et
>http://www.npoc.org/)
>> BP : 851 - Tél.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72
>> Skype : olevie1 FB : @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lomé – Togo
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