[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 91, Issue 38

Sun Sep 28 17:37:48 UTC 2014

Dear Remmy,

I 100% agree with on the fact that more awareness, communication and
marketing activities are needed
But the insurance and financial requirements
of the ICANN RAA is not an “non-existing” excuse for developing
countries/African companies willing to become accredited registrars.

Tell me how many serious companies in Africa can easily obtain “commercial
general liability insurance” of $500,000? Zero! Most of the 7 active African
accredited registrars became accredited through an US or European based
satellite or partner (
I’m not saying that partnership is not good)
.How
many serious companies in Africa can easily demonstrate the ability to
procure liquid working capital of $70,000? Just to do a domain name
business
 Very few. But all those requirements can be easily fulfill by an
US based start-up simply because this works for the US economic and
insurance environments. One last thing the “commercial general liability
insurance” has nothing to do with the “seriousness” of the company willing
to become Accredited registrar. Experts on insurance policies can explain
more

I would end by asking one more time African’s ccTLDs to do  more efforts
(Communication, marketing/publicity) to promote their business and add value
to it. They should also listen to their local potential customers rather
than ignoring what they think. People are willing to keep the money local
but

Happy Sunday to you all!

Best regards,

Victor.

From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] On
Behalf Of Remmy Nweke
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:47 PM
To: africann at afrinic.net
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 91, Issue 38

Dear el and others

happy Sunday,

I think the request for insurance for registrars is a just reassurance that
such registrar seeking accreditation etc is serious. So, I do not see why
people should see that as barrier, but the truth remains that a few
registrar invest in marketing/publicity of their businesses or kind of
businesses.

A good example is what one registrar in Nigeria - Upperlink did with its
license; running publicity campaign. I hope that should be a lesson to
others. We should stop looking for excuses where non exist.

regards

Remmy Nweke

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   1. RE: Statment of the joint meeting of African      community
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      (Dr Eberhard W Lisse)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:49:16 -0400
From: "Victor Ndonnang" <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz
<mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> >
Subject: RE: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of
        African community
To: "'Dr Eberhard W Lisse'" <el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >, " 'Ol?vi?
Kouami' "
        <olivierkouami at gmail.com <mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com> >
Cc: africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> 
Message-ID: <008a01cfdb2b$614c22d0$23e46870$@nvconsulting.biz
<http://nvconsulting.biz> >
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I don’t think so
 This is coming from those who want to keep the market for
themselves and keep the reseller model because it is good for their
business.

Let’s break the barriers and see what will happen

Some will say developing countries ccTLDs are not doing quite well
Yes, I
agree; but the reason is simple, there are doing zero effort to promote
their business.

Best regards,

Victor.

From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> ]
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:40 PM
To: Olévié Kouami
Cc: africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> ; Victor Ndonnang
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of African
community

I think this is the point.

The insurance is being claimed as Barrier to Entry to becoming accredited as
Registrar.

So far it looks as this is not the case.

el

Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

On Sep 27, 2014, at 21:48, Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com
<mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com>  <mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com
<mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com> > > wrote:

Hi Eberhard,

Please, paying for what and to whom ?

I want to understand what you mean.

Cheers !

-Olévié-

2014-09-25 14:17 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
<mailto:el at lisse.na>  <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> > >:

Yes,

I am starting to do the research required before drafting a message.

It would be really helpful to find out how much African applicants have
been quoted and/or are paying.

greetings, el

on 2014-09-24, 22:49 Olévié Kouami said the following:
> Hi !
> I'm following up this debate which seem to me very interesting;
> Please, let's move forward in acting.
> Cheers !
> -Olévié-
>
>
> 2014-09-24 12:25 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
<mailto:el at lisse.na>  <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >
> <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na>  <mailto:el at lisse.na
<mailto:el at lisse.na> > >>:
>
>     Way ahead of you, but not ready for public consumption, yet
>
>     Never mind that Public Forum is verbal.
>
>     el
>
>     on 2014-09-24, 14:23 Victor Ndonnang said the following:
>     > Good suggestion. Can you draft the message?
>     >
>     > ************
>     > Victor Ndonnang
>     [...]

[...]

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PO Box 8421             \     /
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:32:55 +0200
From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of
        African community
To: "<ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz <mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> >"
<ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz <mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> >
Cc: "<africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> >"
<africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> >
Message-ID: <921AFDC6-7027-4254-A191-5B5B7392F5F8 at lisse.na
<mailto:921AFDC6-7027-4254-A191-5B5B7392F5F8 at lisse.na> >
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Fortunately what you think doesn't matter.

My research is not finished, however. And, hence, until I have the facts and
figures I shall not say much about it.

ccTLDs are Registers not Registrars, and their lack of promotion of their
ccTLD is the least contributory factor.

el

Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

> On Sep 28, 2014, at 16:49, Victor Ndonnang <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz
<mailto:ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz> > wrote:
>
> I don’t think so
 This is coming from those who want to keep the market
for themselves and keep the reseller model because it is good for their
business.
> Let’s break the barriers and see what will happen

> Some will say developing countries ccTLDs are not doing quite well
Yes, I
agree; but the reason is simple, there are doing zero effort to promote
their business.
>
> Best regards,
> Victor.
>
>
> From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> ]
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:40 PM
> To: Olévié Kouami
> Cc: africann at afrinic.net <mailto:africann at afrinic.net> ; Victor Ndonnang
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of African
community
>
> I think this is the point.
>
> The insurance is being claimed as Barrier to Entry to becoming accredited
as Registrar.
>
> So far it looks as this is not the case.
>
> el
>
> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 21:48, Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com
<mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Eberhard,
>
> Please, paying for what and to whom ?
> I want to understand what you mean.
> Cheers !
> -Olévié-
>
> 2014-09-25 14:17 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
<mailto:el at lisse.na> >:
> Yes,
>
> I am starting to do the research required before drafting a message.
>
> It would be really helpful to find out how much African applicants have
> been quoted and/or are paying.
>
> greetings, el
>
> on 2014-09-24, 22:49 Olévié Kouami said the following:
> > Hi !
> > I'm following up this debate which seem to me very interesting;
> > Please, let's move forward in acting.
> > Cheers !
> > -Olévié-
> >
> >
> > 2014-09-24 12:25 GMT+00:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na
<mailto:el at lisse.na> 
> > <mailto:el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na> >>:
> >
> >     Way ahead of you, but not ready for public consumption, yet
> >
> >     Never mind that Public Forum is verbal.
> >
> >     el
> >
> >     on 2014-09-24, 14:23 Victor Ndonnang said the following:
> >     > Good suggestion. Can you draft the message?
> >     >
> >     > ************
> >     > Victor Ndonnang
> >     [...]
> [...]
>
> --
> Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse  \        / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar)
> el at lisse.NA <mailto:el at lisse.NA>             / *     |   Telephone: +264
81 124 6733 (cell)
> PO Box 8421             \     /
> Bachbrecht, Namibia     ;____/
>
>
>
> --
> Olévié Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI
> Responsable projet CERGI-Education (http://www.cergibs.com)
> CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
> SG de ESTETIC  (http://www.estetic.tg)
> Membre de ISoc (www.isoc.org <http://www.isoc.org>
<http://www.isoc.org/>) & du FOSSFA (
> www.fossfa.net <http://www.fossfa.net> )
> ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et
http://www.npoc.org/)
> BP : 851 - Tél.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72
> Skype : olevie1 FB : @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lomé – Togo
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