[AfrICANN-discuss] ICANN and Africa

Dr Yassin Mshana ymshana2003 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 27 11:35:44 SAST 2014

Dear Edwin et al

First apologies for changing the Title above without permission dince it is
now concerning Africa.....it is our local issue now...to sanitise the
situation before we broadcast our weaknesses:-(

As much as I agree with you and other input to this, everyone concerned can
see the effort and innovative approaches in Africa. All in all as said
earlier on, we will miss out abd waste all the effort and resources if we
do not build on a firm foundation. We will have sand Castles  if we let
ourselves depend in externals such as handouts from ICANN as a corporation.
We need to be self reliant.

How can we create a furm foundation? My quick Answer is by having credible
National ICT Policies in each country. How many countries have  credible
National ICT Policies which target the Internet business? Very few I
reckon....mostly due internal factors such as not involving respective
political leadership. It is not a waste of time...no!

Why do I suggest that?
Answer: Recall during the Africa IGF in Abuja a few days ago when a
Nigerian government official from Min of Agriculture asked a question about
non involvement? Thas was somehow embarrassing since the officer was
invited to a Forum without being primed with details?!? What are we doing?

With the knowledge of the limited mandate ICANN has....it will be
unthinkable to expect it to our homework...we are rightly so to do it
ourselves within. Why should ICANN invest in a sand Castle we have been

Just to share with you this; we had an ICT policy in my country (Tz) ling
ago and it is implemented and continously be reviewed. We have a framework
to to insert training if there were a call to train masses on ICANN issues.

The training and fellowship activities would be sustainable if we stepped
out of the Technical cubicles and outreach our our people through the
ratified ICT policies....

We have to do both...downstream and upstream otherwise whatever we do will
be like having  'picnic' type of activities whereby everybody goes back
home with full stomach but nothing to eat next day?

I have repeated myself several times on this for 10 years now...and will
not stop and let 'quick fix' aporoaches benefit a few in Africa.

Lets look for internal resources in doing what we wish to do ...not to go
and share embarrassing news at global meetings - which are paid for from
ICANN resources which might have a limit or stop at some point :-(?

Enough for now...lets walk the talk. Discussions can be boring as I have
just bored some people...

On 27 Jul 2014 10:11, "Edwin A. Opare" <aeopare at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

While Internet Governance is an important subject within ICANN, IG is not
ICANN's core mandate. ICANN is already making significant investments in
this space all the same: the fellowship program, support for the various
regional DNS forums, hosting the last but one IETF meeting in London(I
believe), investments in the strategy panels to work on specific aspects of
the internet(IG, public responsibility, identifiers innovation, development
and evolution of the MSM) and the list goes on. Further outreach is being
done through the various regional strategies, the ICANN Learn portal and so
on and so forth. Honestly ICANN cannot do it all by themselves. It is
incumbent on the few of us that have an understanding and knowledge in this
space to spread the news in our various communities. If you need
assistance, ICANN is more than happy to support with training materials,
human expertise and sometimes financial support where possible. ICANN
freely shipped training materials to me on request for an IG training I
conducted here in Ghana last year. Pierre Dandjinou generously sent us a
recorded video on the ICANN Africa Strategy and other ICANN related
subjects because he couldn't be here physically due to several engagements
he was involved in at the time, but he we would've love to come. We got
folks from AT&T, EUROSSIG, ISOC global and a host of other organizations to
provide training as well during the event. So really Dr Yassin, we all have
a responsibility to get "our people" to be more informed, more engaged, and
also become more aware.


On Jul 27, 2014 7:38 AM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> @Dr Yassin I had sent the message below as a pm to Hafedh, now sharing on
> the list. Perhaps it can be a response to the concern of getting more
> educated about ICANN.
> Thanks
> Regards
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> On 26 Jul 2014 20:32, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Hafedh,
>> Could you perhaps explain further on why you think ICANN running
>> certification programs like CISCO et all will help improve understanding
>> and participation in ICANN processes? Perhaps it will help to first
>> understand the motive for certification in the first place vis the role of
>> ICANN. All ICANN does is provide service and because of its strategic role
>> on the internet, there is need to ensure that it provides its service
>> efficiently. This is where accountability, participation et all comes into
>> play; you don't need certification to participate and learn within the
>> community; what you need is intentional interest to participate through
>> getting involved in the community.
>> As to outreaches, ICANN, and the region RIR are sure making effort to get
>> people more people involved, nevertheless i agree that those efforts needs
>> to increase. ICANN is quite large community and can be really challenging
>> to understand all its processes, but it also has a great community of
>> people who are willing to explain things to you and then you as an
>> individual will decide which of those information to ponder upon.
>> Internet governance has become an important imperative and i hope ICANN
>> and other organisation would continue to support initiative geared towards
>> establishing school of internet governance in the region.
>> Regards
>> PS: Below are the urls that i mentioned in my previous mail:
>> http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profiles/blogs/nepad-call-for-applications-for-online-training-internet-governan
>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/iana-oversight-transition/community-engagement
>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, hafedh <hafedhyahmadi at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Here are some insights when it comes to Internet governance trainings
>>> and capacity building in Africa. Although internet outreach is still a big
>>> issue in Africa, I see two critical outreach engines for Africans to boost
>>> skills development and capacity building  about internet governance and the
>>> core values of ICANN as well as the technical skills such IPv6 and DNSSEC,
>>> Root Server, etc . First, a  breadth engine is required  to maximize the
>>> outreach carrying out the primary ICANN school content like the principles,
>>> definitions and all content for new comers and ordinary audiences, Second
>>> the depth engine which should target an upper level advanced audience where
>>> trainings are more in depth about internet governance such what does mean
>>> transparency, human rights in internet, neutrality of the net, and advanced
>>> level on IPv6 deployment,  whta's ICANN accountability means in the
>>> transition period, etc ... I would even suggest an ICANN certification
>>> Program, a kind of international accredited institution, like CISCO,
>>> Microaoft or oracle academy!! Last and not least, when reading this
>>> discussion, I jumped on my chair cause the subject is so vibrant and
>>> relevant to reshape the future of internet governance in Africa. Education
>>> and training is the force of the future, I have been engaged  on this
>>> subject since a while as part of my engineering concerns on  internet, I
>>> have gathered a set of data, content, I shared feedbacks with some ICANN
>>> friends, etc .. let’s get together  to share thoughts and ideas, its
>>> important  to reanimate such a great debate for a concrete plan or action
>>> Hafedh Al yahmadi.
>>> International TIC expert
>>> DG - CIC, tunis
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:29:12 +0200
>>> From: ymshana2003 at gmail.com
>>> To: africann at afrinic.net
>>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] "Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA"
>>> Just to add a little...I think that we need to have 'ICANN School' or
>>> College in that matter to educate people in Internet Governance. Any takers?
>>> There is enough misinformation in the air right now....that is why I
>>> would like to suggest so since the Internet nerds a specific and special
>>> approach to its global existence and reach at the moment.....I would not be
>>> comfortable with some suggestions since  'Trust and Truth' are a very hard
>>> Currency to trade on ..
>>> It's me Yassin
>>> On 25 Jul 2014 17:18, "oboh eromonsele" <oboheromon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I hope the ICANN is 100% international multistakeholder community ???
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Eromonsele Oboh
>>> +2348169445429
>>> Twitter: @am_eromz
>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Mamadou LO <alfamamadou at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Great video explainer: Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA
>>> http://boingboing.net/2014/07/24/great-video-explainer-vint-ce.html
>>> Simple Overview of ICANN and the IANA Transition by Vint Cerf
>>> <http://www.circleid.com/posts/simple_overview_of_icann_and_the_iana_transition_by_vint_cerf_animated/>
>>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/simple_overview_of_icann_and_the_iana_transition_by_vint_cerf_animated/
>>> Regards!!
>>> Mamadou
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