<p dir="ltr">Dear Edwin et al</p>
<p dir="ltr">First apologies for changing the Title above without permission dince it is now concerning Africa.....it is our local issue now...to sanitise the situation before we broadcast our weaknesses:-(</p>
<p dir="ltr">As much as I agree with you and other input to this, everyone concerned can see the effort and innovative approaches in Africa. All in all as said earlier on, we will miss out abd waste all the effort and resources if we do not build on a firm foundation. We will have sand Castles if we let ourselves depend in externals such as handouts from ICANN as a corporation. We need to be self reliant. </p>
<p dir="ltr">How can we create a furm foundation? My quick Answer is by having credible National ICT Policies in each country. How many countries have credible National ICT Policies which target the Internet business? Very few I reckon....mostly due internal factors such as not involving respective political leadership. It is not a waste of time...no!</p>
<p dir="ltr">Why do I suggest that? <br>
Answer: Recall during the Africa IGF in Abuja a few days ago when a Nigerian government official from Min of Agriculture asked a question about non involvement? Thas was somehow embarrassing since the officer was invited to a Forum without being primed with details?!? What are we doing?</p>
<p dir="ltr">With the knowledge of the limited mandate ICANN has....it will be unthinkable to expect it to our homework...we are rightly so to do it ourselves within. Why should ICANN invest in a sand Castle we have been building?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Just to share with you this; we had an ICT policy in my country (Tz) ling ago and it is implemented and continously be reviewed. We have a framework to to insert training if there were a call to train masses on ICANN issues. </p>
<p dir="ltr">The training and fellowship activities would be sustainable if we stepped out of the Technical cubicles and outreach our our people through the ratified ICT policies....</p>
<p dir="ltr">We have to do both...downstream and upstream otherwise whatever we do will be like having 'picnic' type of activities whereby everybody goes back home with full stomach but nothing to eat next day?</p>
<p dir="ltr">I have repeated myself several times on this for 10 years now...and will not stop and let 'quick fix' aporoaches benefit a few in Africa.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Lets look for internal resources in doing what we wish to do ...not to go and share embarrassing news at global meetings - which are paid for from ICANN resources which might have a limit or stop at some point :-(?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Enough for now...lets walk the talk. Discussions can be boring as I have just bored some people...</p>
<p dir="ltr">Yassin</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 27 Jul 2014 10:11, "Edwin A. Opare" <<a href="mailto:aeopare@gmail.com">aeopare@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Dear All,</p>
<p dir="ltr">While Internet Governance is an important subject within ICANN, IG is not ICANN's core mandate. ICANN is already making significant investments in this space all the same: the fellowship program, support for the various regional DNS forums, hosting the last but one IETF meeting in London(I believe), investments in the strategy panels to work on specific aspects of the internet(IG, public responsibility, identifiers innovation, development and evolution of the MSM) and the list goes on. Further outreach is being done through the various regional strategies, the ICANN Learn portal and so on and so forth. Honestly ICANN cannot do it all by themselves. It is incumbent on the few of us that have an understanding and knowledge in this space to spread the news in our various communities. If you need assistance, ICANN is more than happy to support with training materials, human expertise and sometimes financial support where possible. ICANN freely shipped training materials to me on request for an IG training I conducted here in Ghana last year. Pierre Dandjinou generously sent us a recorded video on the ICANN Africa Strategy and other ICANN related subjects because he couldn't be here physically due to several engagements he was involved in at the time, but he we would've love to come. We got folks from AT&T, EUROSSIG, ISOC global and a host of other organizations to provide training as well during the event. So really Dr Yassin, we all have a responsibility to get "our people" to be more informed, more engaged, and also become more aware.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Best,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Edwin</p><div class="elided-text">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 27, 2014 7:38 AM, "Seun Ojedeji" <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">@Dr Yassin I had sent the message below as a pm to Hafedh, now sharing on the list. Perhaps it can be a response to the concern of getting more educated about ICANN. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 Jul 2014 20:32, "Seun Ojedeji" <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hello Hafedh,<br><br></div>Could you perhaps explain further on why you think ICANN running certification programs like CISCO et all will help improve understanding and participation in ICANN processes? Perhaps it will help to first understand the motive for certification in the first place vis the role of ICANN. All ICANN does is provide service and because of its strategic role on the internet, there is need to ensure that it provides its service efficiently. This is where accountability, participation et all comes into play; you don't need certification to participate and learn within the community; what you need is intentional interest to participate through getting involved in the community.<br>
<br></div>As to outreaches, ICANN, and the region RIR are sure making effort to get people more people involved, nevertheless i agree that those efforts needs to increase. ICANN is quite large community and can be really challenging to understand all its processes, but it also has a great community of people who are willing to explain things to you and then you as an individual will decide which of those information to ponder upon.<br>
<br></div><div>Internet governance has become an important imperative and i hope ICANN and other organisation would continue to support initiative geared towards establishing school of internet governance in the region.<br>
<br></div>Regards<br></div>PS: Below are the urls that i mentioned in my previous mail:<br><a href="http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profiles/blogs/nepad-call-for-applications-for-online-training-internet-governan" target="_blank">http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profiles/blogs/nepad-call-for-applications-for-online-training-internet-governan</a><br>
<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/iana-oversight-transition/community-engagement" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/iana-oversight-transition/community-engagement</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM, hafedh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hafedhyahmadi@hotmail.com" target="_blank">hafedhyahmadi@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr"><br><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here are some insights when it comes
to Internet governance trainings and capacity building in Africa. Although
internet outreach is still a big issue in Africa, I see two critical outreach
engines for Africans to boost skills development and capacity building about internet governance and the core values
of ICANN as well as the technical skills such IPv6 and DNSSEC, Root Server, etc
. First, a breadth engine is required to maximize the outreach
carrying out the primary ICANN school content like the principles, definitions
and all content for new comers and ordinary audiences, Second the depth engine
which should target an upper level advanced audience where trainings are more
in depth about internet governance such what does mean transparency, human
rights in internet, neutrality of the net, and advanced level on IPv6 deployment,
whta's ICANN accountability means in the transition period, etc ... I
would even suggest an ICANN certification Program, a kind of international
accredited institution, like CISCO, Microaoft or oracle academy!! Last and not
least, when reading this discussion, I jumped on my chair cause the subject is
so vibrant and relevant to reshape the future of internet governance in Africa.
Education and training is the force of the future, I have been engaged on this subject since a while as part of my
engineering concerns on internet, I have
gathered a set of data, content, I shared feedbacks with some ICANN friends, etc
.. let’s get together to share thoughts
and ideas, its important to reanimate
such a great debate for a concrete plan or action</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hafedh Al yahmadi.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">International TIC expert </span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">DG - CIC, tunis</p><div><hr>Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:29:12 +0200<br>From: <a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] "Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA"<div><div><br><br><p dir="ltr">Just to add a little...I think that we need to have 'ICANN School' or College in that matter to educate people in Internet Governance. Any takers?<br>
There is enough misinformation in the air right now....that is why I would like to suggest so since the Internet nerds a specific and special approach to its global existence and reach at the moment.....I would not be comfortable with some suggestions since 'Trust and Truth' are a very hard Currency to trade on ..<br>
It's me Yassin</p>
<div>On 25 Jul 2014 17:18, "oboh eromonsele" <<a href="mailto:oboheromon@gmail.com" target="_blank">oboheromon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I hope the ICANN is 100% international multistakeholder community ??? </div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#ff0000" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Warm Regards,</font><div>
<font face="courier new, monospace">Eromonsele Oboh</font></div><div><a>+2348169445429</a></div><div><font color="#0000ff">Twitter:</font> @am_eromz</div>
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<br><br><div>On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Mamadou LO <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alfamamadou@hotmail.com" target="_blank">alfamamadou@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Great video explainer: Vint Cerf on ICANN and NTIA<br><div><div dir="ltr"><span><a href="http://boingboing.net/2014/07/24/great-video-explainer-vint-ce.html" target="_blank">http://boingboing.net/2014/07/24/great-video-explainer-vint-ce.html</a></span><br>
<br><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/simple_overview_of_icann_and_the_iana_transition_by_vint_cerf_animated/" target="_blank">Simple Overview of ICANN and the IANA Transition by Vint Cerf</a><span></span><br><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/simple_overview_of_icann_and_the_iana_transition_by_vint_cerf_animated/" target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/simple_overview_of_icann_and_the_iana_transition_by_vint_cerf_animated/</a><br>
<br>Regards!!<span><font color="#888888"><br><br>Mamadou<br> </font></span></div></div> </div></div>
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