[AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive

Tue Oct 30 16:40:38 SAST 2012

Its amazing how topic of discussion can change....now its on t regulation
Vs "other words" perhaps a good preparation for the WCIT ;)

Cheers!
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>wrote:

> ++1
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za> wrote:
>
>> Now I'm clear what you mean by domain name regulation, Pierre. Yes,
>> domain name dispute regulation is regulation. Likewise, setting Whois
>> parameters through regulation is regulation. My emphasis is that
>> regulation of how domain names are used is quite difficult & almost
>> impractical, if not bordering on censorship. The same thing with regulating
>> IP addresses, which is even more tricky than domain names.
>>
>> Vika
>>
>> From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
>> Reply-To: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
>> Date: Tuesday 30 October 2012 10:40 AM
>> To: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
>> Cc: Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>
>> It is never too late. What about Whois service (for domain names and IP
>> addresses)? And the policy to be put in place to have a Whois data who is
>> accurate?
>>
>> It is regulation or not?
>>
>> Domain name dispute is also part of the regulation.
>>
>>
>>
>>    ------------------------------
>> *De :* Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
>> *À :* africann at afrinic.net
>> *Envoyé le :* Mardi 30 octobre 2012 8h33
>> *Objet :* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>
>> +++1 here too.
>>
>> Regulating domain names & IP addresses is not something I've ever heard
>> of. I've heard of domain name dispute regulation, which of course only
>> regulates how disputes over a domain name in a particular top level domain
>> (TLD) should be handled & resolved.
>>
>>
>> From: Ntege Badru <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>> Reply-To: <africann at afrinic.net>
>> Date: Tuesday 30 October 2012 8:32 AM
>> To: "<africann at afrinic.net>" <africann at afrinic.net>
>> Cc: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>, Dr Eberhard Lisse <
>> el at lisse.NA>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>
>> +++1
>>
>>
>> On 30 Oct 2012, at 07:20, "Nii Narku Quaynor" <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>>
>> So, exactly what is to be regulated about Internet in a country ? No
>> answer...
>>
>>
>> Country's regulate access...connectivity and infrastructure. (which they
>> are failing miserably). There is a big difference between a nicely written
>> policy document (which I call intent) and actual on the ground
>> implementation (results).
>>
>> The collective bottom up process has achieved allot more than any one
>> government has ever achieved for the Internet.  So I'm still puzzled why
>> some on the list still want to take us back to the domain of what I like to
>> call Paralysis Through Analysis (PTA).
>>
>> Let's build on the rough consensus platform it has brought us this far we
>> just need to keep perfecting it by wider consultation and knowledge sharing
>> to help others contribute effectively with value from a knowledgable
>> perspective.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 23:46, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oga Nii.. You are right but that system belongs to bad governance
>> unfortunately and should be revamped since it does not apply to
>> Internet-based economy. Im aware of Communications Regulations bodies eg
>> WATRA. That applies to Mobile and fixed Telecomms but not applicable to
>> Internet. Why? Because it froze there since the effort to make Laws
>> recognize the location free Internet-based economy is not yet in the Books?
>> Attempts have been made but it needs another Law to do that. It is like
>> establishing Traffic Lights in the Sky?
>> I recall this issue of Laws was discussed in 2005 at Mar de Plata but did
>> not cross the borders ...why?
>>
>>
>>
>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Regulators typically issue licenses, determine number of operators, type
>> of operators, set fees, set standards, enforce regulations, decide on
>> interconnections, etc....which goes well beyond "organize" to more like
>> "control"
>>
>> Business development organizations "organize" while telecom regulators
>> "control"
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 22:07, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>> For me, "regulate" does not mean control. "Regulate" is a bit like
>> "organize".
>>
>> --
>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>> IT Engineer / ANTIC
>> Web : http://www.antic.cm
>> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
>> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
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>> *De :* Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
>> *À :* africann at afrinic.net; Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
>> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 29 octobre 2012 23h01
>> *Objet :* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>
>> So you can tap communications, censor publications, enrich yourself or
>> your nephew through competitive advantage, and whatnot, for starters.
>>
>> But then you were asking rethorically, of course.
>>
>> El
>>
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's BlackBerry PlayBook
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* "Nii Narku Quaynor" <quaynor at ghana.com>
>> *To:* "Pierre Lotis NANKEP" <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, "africann at afrinic.net" <
>> africann at afrinic.net>
>> *Sent:* October 29, 2012 11:17 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 20:42, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Currently, We are working on legislation relating to Internet Regulation,
>> which will be operational by the end of this year 2012.
>>
>> Why would want to regulate the Internet whose standards and coordination
>> are global ? (perhaps you mean something else?)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>> IT Engineer / ANTIC
>> Web : http://www.antic.cm
>> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
>> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
>>   ------------------------------
>> *De :* Thierry Sanzhie Bokally <sanzhiet at gmail.com>
>> *À :* africann at afrinic.net
>> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 29 octobre 2012 21h17
>> *Objet :* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>
>>  Dear,
>>
>> If the can help the list of african countries with active national ICT
>> plans :
>> http://www.oafrica.com/ict-policy/african-nations-with-active-national-ict-plans/
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Le 28/10/2012 10:36, Y Mshana2003 a écrit :
>>
>> I believe that ICT Policies is the foundation because ICANN is not a
>> levitating Organisation. Its Constituents are made by individuals from
>> different countries. Therefore individuals serving in ICANN must have
>> joined the organisation with something from home country to contribute!
>>  that "thing" is policy in addition to good intention.
>> In that case country ICT policy is important to have had.  Does each
>> country possess one?
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>>  Yassin
>>
>>
>>
>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I thought this list is about ICANN and Internet or is it for ICT now?
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:33, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Thank P for this.
>>
>>  Shall we begin by looking whether each country has an uptodate ICT
>> Policy? If now how can they be encouraged to craft one? I ll be ready to
>> put energy into that. This is especially on policy that encourage Private
>> Sector development for the benefit of its people and the Africa region.
>> Let us take stock since it is more than 10 years now since the need of
>> ICT policies became obvious.
>>
>>  Why m I suggesting this? Policy is the foundation.
>>
>>  Cheers
>> Yassin
>>
>>
>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> As you must have noticed, the discussions in the last weeks only turned
>> out to be a ping pong party between 2 or 3 people. Of course, others, be
>> they elders, pioneers, youngsters and babies (!) could not find any
>> interest in the debate..
>>
>> Another Bantu (Aka) proverbs states that 'When you open your mouth in
>> public to address people, make sure you are concise, to the point and not
>> too long! For if you fail to do this, you might make your audience turn
>> away and leave you alone in the circle!!'
>>
>> Thus, may I suggest we just concentrate on a few simple and doable things
>> which make a difference in the development of Africa's Internet ecosystem?
>>
>> May we share those information, documents and facts that are of interest
>> to us all ? May we showcase those successes/and failures which show
>> individual countries are moving ahead in building their own Internet
>> environment?
>>
>> Regards
>> Pierre D.
>>
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