[AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive

Tue Oct 30 16:36:02 SAST 2012

++1

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za> wrote:

> Now I'm clear what you mean by domain name regulation, Pierre. Yes, domain
> name dispute regulation is regulation. Likewise, setting Whois parameters
> through regulation is regulation. My emphasis is that regulation of how
> domain names are used is quite difficult & almost impractical, if not
> bordering on censorship. The same thing with regulating IP addresses, which
> is even more tricky than domain names.
>
> Vika
>
> From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
> Reply-To: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
> Date: Tuesday 30 October 2012 10:40 AM
> To: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
> Cc: Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>
> It is never too late. What about Whois service (for domain names and IP
> addresses)? And the policy to be put in place to have a Whois data who is
> accurate?
>
> It is regulation or not?
>
> Domain name dispute is also part of the regulation.
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *De :* Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
> *À :* africann at afrinic.net
> *Envoyé le :* Mardi 30 octobre 2012 8h33
> *Objet :* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>
> +++1 here too.
>
> Regulating domain names & IP addresses is not something I've ever heard
> of. I've heard of domain name dispute regulation, which of course only
> regulates how disputes over a domain name in a particular top level domain
> (TLD) should be handled & resolved.
>
>
> From: Ntege Badru <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
> Reply-To: <africann at afrinic.net>
> Date: Tuesday 30 October 2012 8:32 AM
> To: "<africann at afrinic.net>" <africann at afrinic.net>
> Cc: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>, Dr Eberhard Lisse <
> el at lisse.NA>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>
> +++1
>
>
> On 30 Oct 2012, at 07:20, "Nii Narku Quaynor" <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
> So, exactly what is to be regulated about Internet in a country ? No
> answer...
>
>
> Country's regulate access...connectivity and infrastructure. (which they
> are failing miserably). There is a big difference between a nicely written
> policy document (which I call intent) and actual on the ground
> implementation (results).
>
> The collective bottom up process has achieved allot more than any one
> government has ever achieved for the Internet.  So I'm still puzzled why
> some on the list still want to take us back to the domain of what I like to
> call Paralysis Through Analysis (PTA).
>
> Let's build on the rough consensus platform it has brought us this far we
> just need to keep perfecting it by wider consultation and knowledge sharing
> to help others contribute effectively with value from a knowledgable
> perspective.
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 23:46, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oga Nii.. You are right but that system belongs to bad governance
> unfortunately and should be revamped since it does not apply to
> Internet-based economy. Im aware of Communications Regulations bodies eg
> WATRA. That applies to Mobile and fixed Telecomms but not applicable to
> Internet. Why? Because it froze there since the effort to make Laws
> recognize the location free Internet-based economy is not yet in the Books?
> Attempts have been made but it needs another Law to do that. It is like
> establishing Traffic Lights in the Sky?
> I recall this issue of Laws was discussed in 2005 at Mar de Plata but did
> not cross the borders ...why?
>
>
>
> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>
>
>
> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
>
> Regulators typically issue licenses, determine number of operators, type
> of operators, set fees, set standards, enforce regulations, decide on
> interconnections, etc....which goes well beyond "organize" to more like
> "control"
>
> Business development organizations "organize" while telecom regulators
> "control"
>
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 22:07, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
> For me, "regulate" does not mean control. "Regulate" is a bit like
> "organize".
>
> --
> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
> IT Engineer / ANTIC
> Web : http://www.antic.cm
> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
>   ------------------------------
> *De :* Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
> *À :* africann at afrinic.net; Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 29 octobre 2012 23h01
> *Objet :* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>
> So you can tap communications, censor publications, enrich yourself or
> your nephew through competitive advantage, and whatnot, for starters.
>
> But then you were asking rethorically, of course.
>
> El
>
> Sent from Dr Lisse's BlackBerry PlayBook
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Nii Narku Quaynor" <quaynor at ghana.com>
> *To:* "Pierre Lotis NANKEP" <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, "africann at afrinic.net" <
> africann at afrinic.net>
> *Sent:* October 29, 2012 11:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 20:42, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
> Currently, We are working on legislation relating to Internet Regulation,
> which will be operational by the end of this year 2012.
>
> Why would want to regulate the Internet whose standards and coordination
> are global ? (perhaps you mean something else?)
>
> Regards
>
>
> --
> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
> IT Engineer / ANTIC
> Web : http://www.antic.cm
> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
>   ------------------------------
> *De :* Thierry Sanzhie Bokally <sanzhiet at gmail.com>
> *À :* africann at afrinic.net
> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 29 octobre 2012 21h17
> *Objet :* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>
>  Dear,
>
> If the can help the list of african countries with active national ICT
> plans :
> http://www.oafrica.com/ict-policy/african-nations-with-active-national-ict-plans/
>
> Regards
>
>
> Le 28/10/2012 10:36, Y Mshana2003 a écrit :
>
> I believe that ICT Policies is the foundation because ICANN is not a
> levitating Organisation. Its Constituents are made by individuals from
> different countries. Therefore individuals serving in ICANN must have
> joined the organisation with something from home country to contribute!
>  that "thing" is policy in addition to good intention.
> In that case country ICT policy is important to have had.  Does each
> country possess one?
>
>  Cheers
>
>  Yassin
>
>
>
> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>
>
>
> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
>
> I thought this list is about ICANN and Internet or is it for ICT now?
>
> On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:33, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Thank P for this.
>
>  Shall we begin by looking whether each country has an uptodate ICT
> Policy? If now how can they be encouraged to craft one? I ll be ready to
> put energy into that. This is especially on policy that encourage Private
> Sector development for the benefit of its people and the Africa region.
> Let us take stock since it is more than 10 years now since the need of ICT
> policies became obvious.
>
>  Why m I suggesting this? Policy is the foundation.
>
>  Cheers
> Yassin
>
>
> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>
>
>
> Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Colleagues,
>
> As you must have noticed, the discussions in the last weeks only turned
> out to be a ping pong party between 2 or 3 people. Of course, others, be
> they elders, pioneers, youngsters and babies (!) could not find any
> interest in the debate..
>
> Another Bantu (Aka) proverbs states that 'When you open your mouth in
> public to address people, make sure you are concise, to the point and not
> too long! For if you fail to do this, you might make your audience turn
> away and leave you alone in the circle!!'
>
> Thus, may I suggest we just concentrate on a few simple and doable things
> which make a difference in the development of Africa's Internet ecosystem?
>
> May we share those information, documents and facts that are of interest
> to us all ? May we showcase those successes/and failures which show
> individual countries are moving ahead in building their own Internet
> environment?
>
> Regards
> Pierre D.
>
> --
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