[rpd] [members-discuss] Afrinic Court Updates

[Noah]

Dude, the issue is simple, is there a transfer policy in place or not?
Are there transfer policies in other regions or not?

Intra-RIR or Inter-RIR is a different discussion.  And as for the monopoly,
the RIR system is what it is, get over it.

*Noah*

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 11:17 PM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> An intra-RIR transfer policy does not eliminate the monopoly status.
>
> It requires an inter-RIR policy to do that.
>
> Are you really so ignorant or are you merely hoping that your attempt at
> obfuscation and sophistry would not be revealed for what it is?
>
> Owen
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 12:04 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> I refer you to section 5.7 of the CPM. It's a fact that AFRINIC has a
> transfer policy in place albeit Intra-RIR.  So where is the absence of the
> transfer policy the man is talking about?
>
> I suppose it's you who was ignorant of that fact.
>
> Noah
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:29 PM Paul Hjul <hjul.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You really shouldn't accuse somebody of making a "misrepresentation of
>> facts" if your starting position is one of ignorance.
>>
>> I don't know whether you are genuinely ignorant or are simply dishonest.
>>
>> In any case waiting for the written indication of the co-chairs pushing
>> to final call as the working group has quite definitively not agreed.
>>
>>
>> On which note its probably best to ask in the mailing list when we can
>> expect the co-chairs to put out the last call.
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, 20:39 Noah, <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, 10:26 Andrew Alston via Members-Discuss, <
>>> members-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> RIR’s are defacto monopolies in the absence of transfer policies –
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your statement above is misrepresentation of facts.
>>>
>>> There is an existing Intra-RIR transfer policy where resource members
>>> within the AFRINIC service region can transfer anywhere within the region
>>> number resources.
>>>
>>> once they have transfer policies – they are no longer monopolies since
>>>> anyone can transfer anywhere.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In the last PPM, after years of discussions as is common with the policy
>>> development process, the working group finally agreed on an Inter-RIR
>>> transfer policy which has since reached rough consensus and in last call.
>>>
>>> So what are you talking about?
>>>
>>> Noah
>>>
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