[rpd] AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy (Draft-2) - AFPUB-2020-GEN-006-DRAFT02

Sun Nov 21 22:27:44 UTC 2021

Hello all,

Irrespective of the need for the AFRINIC Organization to have a stable and
functional inter-RIR transfer policy, there are various valid objections
that this policy proposal present like it’s like of reciprocity, the
utilization of vague languages in its definitions. According to the section
3.3.5 which stipulates “If the source is from another region and the
recipient is AFRINIC member, then allow "Any", and then mark the
transferred resources as "Global" - lack of reciprocity, and the use of
“any”, what is “Any” this can be misinterpreted and can mean literally
“any”thing. Likewise, in section 3.4, “the resource must qualify for the
type of transfer requested”. There is no definition of the types of
transfers making it vague.
Finally, this policy proposal gives too much power and authority to the
bureaucracy of the organization especially in the section 3.6, conditions
on the recipient; with the monitoring of the recipients previous usage,
current use, and intended/future usage of the resources. This feels and
looks like micromanagement.

Best regards.
Elvis.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 2:16 Oluwabunmi Egbeyemi <
oluwabunmiegbeyemi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Jordi,
> I agree on your points here.
> Also, if I understood correctly, Clause 3.6 of this policy will bind
> non-members to the RSA, which should not be the case as number resource
> transfers should be free from any commitments aside from exercising due
> diligence between the member and the receiving RIR. Making a non-member
> sign up for AFRINIC RSA is just accentuating a bureaucratic process and
> will just incur additional payments for their dues and such. Also, this
> policy did not have any thorough discussions, it just reached a rough
> consensus. These, I believe, are valid objections to this policy proposal.
>
> Warm regards
> Oluwabunmi
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 12:42 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <
> rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
>> I've realized something else, so replying myself:
>>
>> Partial reciprocity is utopic if you can't get resources from the bigger
>> donor (ARIN)! Do you think LACNIC or other RIRs will accept a
>> non-reciprocal policy even if their actual policy allows it? They can
>> change their policy so to ask also reciprocity from your side even before
>> this one get implemented! It is ridiculous.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>> El 18/11/21 12:38, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net>
>> escribió:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     I just want to keep my objections on this policy that I've been
>> raising since version one and the previous ID of it (expired so got a new
>> ID). They are in the list and in the videos from the Angola meeting and the
>> ones afterwards, no need to repeat all that. Authors never addressed them
>> in my opinion.
>>
>>     However, I've new ones as well. In summary:
>>     1) IA section 2 is clear about several issues in the proposal which I
>> agree and for me are valid objections.
>>
>>     2) As it was already claimed in previous versions, I don't think this
>> proposal is reciprocal with all the other RIRs, specially with ARIN and
>> that will mean that it becomes null.
>>
>>     3) A few years ago, I already submitted a proposal for "only legacy"
>> resources (which at the end was a different way to write the same as this
>> policy is doing), and the community said they don't like it and I've not
>> seen a change in that view point, specially understanding that it means
>> no-reciprocity.
>>
>>     4) Finally, while I disagree with some of the legal inputs, there are
>> several that are a concern and for me are valid objections.
>>
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Jordi
>>     @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>>
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