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[rpd] Policy Proposal: PDP Working Group (WG) Guidelines and Procedures - Draft03

Paul Hjul hjul.paul at
Tue Nov 16 21:36:27 UTC 2021

> Hello PDWG Members,
>> Please note that this new version of the policy Proposal - PDP Working
>>> Group and Guidelines from authors Noah Maina and Alain Aina has been
>>> the ID AFPUB-2020-GEN-002-DRAFT04
>> The proposal contents are published at:
>>> <
>> Kind Regards,
>> PDWG Co-Chairs.
> This policy proposal is in conflict with the proposal
>  AFPUB-2021-GEN-002-DRAFT02

The proposal  AFPUB-2021-GEN-002-DRAFT02
> was
> introduced on 10 Oct 2021 and is recent while the
> proposal AFPUB-2020-GEN-002-DRAFT04
>  dates
> back to July 2020.

> Looking the revision history.

> Noah

Who ever suggested otherwise ? Stupid ideas, like stupid peope don't get
less stupid with age.

You are injecting an argument not being made and trying to make a
fallacious and disreputable argument in its place. I said that "I do not
see how rough consensus (yet alone consensus) can be reached on both
policies. As the latter proposal is considerably closer to an alignment
with the values which should underpin Afrinic; it has my reservation
carrying support." No assertion that the proposal is out of order or cannot
be made due to it conflicting with a later proposal rather that the
divergence is such that only one of the two proposals can attain rough

It is an absolute fallacy that earlier proposals are to be prefered over
later more meritous ones. What should be valued is whether a proposal is
well reasoned and can enjoy the broad support of the community. The
exchange of emails until you've entered the room makes it very clear that
the proposal AFPUB-2021-GEN-002-DRAFT02 does enjoy such support.

This email followed my email at *Mon Nov 15 12:20:01 UTC 2021 *with a
subject "New Version of Policy Proposal - Update of PDP (Draft-2) -
AFPUB-2021-GEN-002-DRAFT02" wherein I express my support (reservered but
nonetheless) for same policy.

Whether (as Jordi suggests) and you appear to deny - or at least feign
ignorance - efforts were made to de-conflict the two proposals really
doesn't matter to the fact that once somebody concurs with the later policy
it is untenable to concur with this one making rough consensus on the
policy impossible to achieve.

Hopefully the quite fruitful engagements on this list over the last two
days can continue into the meetings over the next few days and the
organizational culture can be repaired sufficiently well to be able to
start unpacking and resolving other problems.

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