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Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at
Fri Sep 24 02:08:21 UTC 2021

Hello Noah
Thanks for sharing it. Intresting stuff.

Reading this with attentiom I get each day more convinced that it has been
actually a good thing that AfriNic didn't have a Inter-RIR Transfer Policy
so far.

Imagine how much IP resources would have been sent away from Africa if this
was already in place. And for what ? To fill someone's pocket with money
without any interest on African Internet Development.

Despite any positives points of a Inter-RIR Transfer Policy while there are
still these types of tentatives to have a Inter-RIR policy by force and by
any cost it does not seem to be a good idea to have one in place.

The shared message in question have no shame to clearly tell members to
simply sell their resources and get them sent out of the region.

Does anyone really beleive that anyone supporting a Inter-RIR Transfer
Policy with these arguments is concerned with Internet Development in
Africa ?

It is very well known that the proposal in question that had its discussion
missmanaged and a lot of controversies is awaiting for the Appeal Committee
to analyse it.
But the message and some people who wish ro have it at any costs are quiet
confortable to simply ignore the PDP and hope the Board will ratify it
regradless the due process.

Does anyone think that people willing to rush this policy using these
arguments and methods want any good for Internet in Africa ?

I will keep waiting patiently for the Appeal Committee to analyse the
appeal in place and afterwards for a proper Inter-RIR Transfer proposal to
be discussed and reach consensus at the right time when this does not mean
a threat to AfriNic resources anymore.


On Thu, 23 Sep 2021, 20:12 Noah, <noah at> wrote:

> Hi PDWG and CoChairs,


> I refer you to the attached document send by a representative of the

> so-called Number Resource Soceity aka NRS to a good number of resource

> members.


> Specifically, pay attention to the point related to Inter-RIR transfer

> policy.



> <snip>

> 1. Inter transfer policy that will allow one as a member of AFRINIC

> to be able to sell their resources to other RIR and to get value of their

> money. Policy allows organization who have unused IP4 address space or ASN

> to request transfer to a specific qualified recipient in another RIR

> <snip>


> Ofcourse the statement in the snip above is total bs.


> As you may all remember, the PDWG launched a set of appeals to the AC

> sometime last year as a result of the former co-chairs mismanagement of the

> PDP process in regards to the draft proposal termed as "Resource Transfer

> Policy".


> As you know, a number of members always suspected that the proponents of

> that proposal had some ties with the Larus Organisation.


> As you will also note, Larus has always been behind the so called

> purported hongkong based organisation the *Number Resources Society* which

> obvious is not a multistakeholder organisation but rather a loosely

> coordinated organisation founded by the Larus to advance a widely known

> motive of IPv4 leasing as evidenced in the document. This I believe it the

> reason behind the current SPAM emails members are receiving with aim of

> recruiting them to the NRS.


> With the above background, I would like to categorically state to the PDWG

> that with TIME, all intentions and motives often come out.


> Most importantly, as a PDWG participant, I would like to know if the new

> lobbying being done by the NRS.HELP is inline with the PDP.


> I would like to know if at all, the PDWG and its PDP is no longer useful

> and if resource members will now be determining policies NRS style and not

> the internet community through an open bottomup PDP.



> Cheers

> Noah


> PS: The attachment was privately sent by below address.


> <snip>

> ---------- Forwarded message ---------

> From: Benjamin Mutami <b.mutami at>

> Date: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 16:16 PM


> <snip>

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