<div dir="auto">Hello Noah<div dir="auto">Thanks for sharing it. Intresting stuff.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Reading this with attentiom I get each day more convinced that it has been actually a good thing that AfriNic didn't have a Inter-RIR Transfer Policy so far.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Imagine how much IP resources would have been sent away from Africa if this was already in place. And for what ? To fill someone's pocket with money without any interest on African Internet Development.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Despite any positives points of a Inter-RIR Transfer Policy while there are still these types of tentatives to have a Inter-RIR policy by force and by any cost it does not seem to be a good idea to have one in place.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The shared message in question have no shame to clearly tell members to simply sell their resources and get them sent out of the region.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Does anyone really beleive that anyone supporting a Inter-RIR Transfer Policy with these arguments is concerned with Internet Development in Africa ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It is very well known that the proposal in question that had its discussion missmanaged and a lot of controversies is awaiting for the Appeal Committee to analyse it.</div><div dir="auto">But the message and some people who wish ro have it at any costs are quiet confortable to simply ignore the PDP and hope the Board will ratify it regradless the due process.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Does anyone think that people willing to rush this policy using these arguments and methods want any good for Internet in Africa ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will keep waiting patiently for the Appeal Committee to analyse the appeal in place and afterwards for a proper Inter-RIR Transfer proposal to be discussed and reach consensus at the right time when this does not mean a threat to AfriNic resources anymore.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto">Fernando</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 23 Sep 2021, 20:12 Noah, <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Hi PDWG and CoChairs,</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">I refer you to the attached document send by a representative of the so-called Number Resource Soceity aka NRS to a good number of resource members.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Specifically, pay attention to the point related to Inter-RIR transfer policy.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><snip></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">1. Inter transfer policy that will allow one as a member of AFRINIC to be able to sell their resources to other RIR and to get value of their money. Policy allows organization who have unused IP4 address space or ASN to request transfer to a specific qualified recipient in another RIR</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><snip></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Ofcourse the statement in the snip above is total bs. </div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">As you may all remember, the PDWG launched a set of appeals to the AC sometime last year as a result of the former co-chairs mismanagement of the PDP process in regards to the draft proposal termed as "Resource Transfer Policy".</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">As you know, a number of members always suspected that the proponents of that proposal had some ties with the Larus Organisation.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">As you will also note, Larus has always been behind the so called purported hongkong based organisation the *Number Resources Society* which obvious is not a multistakeholder organisation but rather a loosely coordinated organisation founded by the Larus to advance a widely known motive of IPv4 leasing as evidenced in the document. This I believe it the reason behind the current SPAM emails members are receiving with aim of recruiting them to the NRS.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">With the above background, I would like to categorically state to the PDWG that with TIME, all intentions and motives often come out.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Most importantly, as a PDWG participant, I would like to know if the new lobbying being done by the NRS.HELP is inline with the PDP.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">I would like to know if at all, the PDWG and its PDP is no longer useful and if resource members will now be determining policies NRS style and not the internet community through an open bottomup PDP.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Cheers</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Noah</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">PS: The attachment was privately sent by below address.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><snip></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Benjamin Mutami</strong> <span dir="auto"><b.mutami@nrs.help></span><br>Date: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 16:16 PM</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Subject: REQUEST TO JOIN NUMBER RESOURCE SOCIETY<br><snip></div></div></div></div></div>
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