[rpd] [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Unaddressed queries by AFRINIC during AGMM

[Daniel Yakmut]

I am at this point utterly flabbergasted that response to simple 
questions will require a webinar. I thought direct answers would have 
been given to the questions first. Subsequently, if there are 
clarifications to be made, a webinar opportunity could be utilize to 
further give light to grey areas that have not been clear by the earlier 
response to the questions.

But, to plan to use a webinar to handle such situations, creates an 
atmosphere of suspicion. We can do well if we do not give such impressions.


Simply,

Daniel

On 05/08/2021 11:11 pm, Owen DeLong via RPD wrote:

> How about just providing simple text answers to the questions? I don’t 

> think webinars are necessary. I think that the questions need to be 

> addressed and that there is really no difficulty to do so in text.

>

> Owen

>

>

>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 06:03 , AFRINIC Communication <comms at afrinic.net 

>> <mailto:comms at afrinic.net>> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Mr Wollner,

>>

>> This is a follow-up to our previous response to you regarding questions.

>>

>> We have planned to address these questions through a series of 

>> webinars. However, these AFRINIC webinar series that we started on 19 

>> July 2021 

>> (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2021/002306.html 

>> <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2021/002306.html>) have 

>> since been put on hold for now due to ongoing matters.

>>

>> We shall communicate the new dates for the webinar series in due course.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> AFRINIC Communications

>>

>>> On 3 Aug 2021, at 13:33, Paul Wollner 

>>> <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net 

>>> <mailto:paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear AFRINIC,

>>>

>>> It has been just over a month now since the mail below was sent and 

>>> I feel that we still do not have any direct answer on the 4 

>>> questions that were raised.

>>>

>>> Can we please get a clearcut answer from AFRINIC on these questions?

>>>

>>> Regards

>>> Paul Wollner

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ---- On Fri, 02 Jul 2021 14:24:05 +0200 Paul Wollner 

>>> <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net 

>>> <mailto:paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>> wrote ----

>>>

>>> Mr. Kayihura,

>>>

>>> I refer to your email dated 30 June 2021.

>>>

>>> In it, you claim that Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the 

>>> open mic session held on 4 June 2021.

>>>

>>> The reality is that none of those questions were satisfactorily 

>>> answered. They were addressed to the extent that the questions were 

>>> acknowledged, then an attempt was made to obfuscate them and answer 

>>> different questions while pretending to answer the questions asked, 

>>> then a claim was made that the questions would be answered at a 

>>> later date.

>>>

>>> In reality, no such answer has been forthcoming from AFRINIC. We 

>>> recognize that these questions are likely inconvenient and come at 

>>> what is almost certainly an inopportune time to be asking. 

>>> Nonetheless, these are valid questions and as a resource member, we 

>>> feel that we are being held at unfair disadvantage if AFRINIC will 

>>> not provide a clear and direct answer to each of the questions about 

>>> how it interprets policies in these areas.

>>>

>>> There’s too much at stake to allow AFRINIC staff to simply make it 

>>> up as they go a long. We need a public commitment to the official 

>>> interpretation of these areas of potential ambiguity in the current 

>>> policy regime.

>>>

>>> As to the fourth item, while it is not our intent to micro-manage 

>>> AFRINIC staff decisions, it is our conclusion that even if Madhvi 

>>> did not actively participate in the fraudulent resource 

>>> registrations and embezzlement, she surely must have either turned a 

>>> blind eye (aiding and abetting) or she failed to notice it which at 

>>> best displays a level of incompetence and failure to meet her duty 

>>> of care in such a position.

>>>

>>> In summary, we renew our request for factual, reliable, direct 

>>> answers to each of the queries and request that AFRINIC eschew 

>>> further obfuscation and sophistry in the process.

>>>

>>> Thank you.

>>>

>>> Paul Wollner

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ---- On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:04:19 +0200 Eddy Kayihura 

>>> <eddy at afrinic.net <mailto:eddy at afrinic.net>> wrote ----

>>>

>>> Mr Wollner,

>>>

>>> I refer to your email dated 24 June 2021.

>>>

>>> Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic session held on 

>>> 4 June 2021 and we undertook an action to organise a webinar within 

>>> 2 months to discuss with the community the definition of 

>>> “need-based” in the AFRINIC policies and bylaws.

>>>

>>> We are delighted to see that the discussion amongst the community 

>>> has already started.

>>>

>>>

>>> Regarding question 4, we cannot penalise a staff member unless we 

>>> find concrete proof of their involvement in the misappropriation of 

>>> the IP resources. As of now, we do not have such evidence on any of 

>>> AFRINIC’s current staff members.

>>>

>>> The appropriate channel for such inquiry or complaint is to submit 

>>> it via our Whistleblowing platform.

>>>

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>>

>>> Eddy Kayihura

>>>

>>> Chief Executive Officer,

>>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

>>> …………………………………………………….

>>>

>>>

>>> M. Wollner,

>>>

>>> Je me réfère à votre courriel du 24 juin 2021.

>>>

>>> Les questions 1 à 3 ont été abordées lors de la session 'open mic' 

>>> qui s'est tenue le 4 juin 2021 et nous avons entrepris une action 

>>> visant à organiser un webinaire dans un délai de 2 mois afin de 

>>> discuter avec la communauté de la définition de "need-based" dans 

>>> les politiques et les statuts d'AFRINIC.

>>>

>>> Nous sommes ravis de voir que la discussion au sein de la communauté 

>>> a déjà commencé.

>>>

>>> En ce qui concerne la question 4, nous ne pouvons pas pénaliser un 

>>> membre du personnel à moins de trouver des preuves concrètes de son 

>>> implication dans la manipulation non autorisée des ressources IP. A 

>>> ce jour, nous n'avons pas de telles preuves sur aucun des membres 

>>> actuels du personnel d'AFRINIC.

>>>

>>> Le canal approprié pour une telle requête ou plainte est de la 

>>> soumettre via notre plateforme de whistleblowing.

>>>

>>>

>>> Cordialement,

>>> Eddy Kayihura

>>> Directeur général,

>>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

>>>

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