[rpd] [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Unaddressed queries by AFRINIC during AGMM

Fri Aug 6 15:07:20 UTC 2021

I am at this point utterly flabbergasted that response to simple 
questions will require a webinar. I thought direct answers would have 
been given to the questions first. Subsequently, if there are 
clarifications to be made, a webinar opportunity could be utilize to 
further give light to grey areas that have not been clear by the earlier 
response to the questions.

But, to plan to use a webinar to handle such situations, creates an 
atmosphere of suspicion. We can do well if we do not give such impressions.

Simply,

Daniel

On 05/08/2021 11:11 pm, Owen DeLong via RPD wrote:
> How about just providing simple text answers to the questions? I don’t 
> think webinars are necessary. I think that the questions need to be 
> addressed and that there is really no difficulty to do so in text.
>
> Owen
>
>
>> On Aug 5, 2021, at 06:03 , AFRINIC Communication <comms at afrinic.net 
>> <mailto:comms at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mr Wollner,
>>
>> This is a follow-up to our previous response to you regarding questions.
>>
>> We have planned to address these questions through a series of 
>> webinars. However, these AFRINIC webinar series that we started on 19 
>> July 2021 
>> (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2021/002306.html 
>> <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2021/002306.html>) have 
>> since been put on hold for now due to ongoing matters.
>>
>> We shall communicate the new dates for the webinar series in due course.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> AFRINIC Communications
>>
>>> On 3 Aug 2021, at 13:33, Paul Wollner 
>>> <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net 
>>> <mailto:paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear AFRINIC,
>>>
>>> It has been just over a month now since the mail below was sent and 
>>> I feel that we still do not have any direct answer on the 4 
>>> questions that were raised.
>>>
>>> Can we please get a clearcut answer from AFRINIC on these questions?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Paul Wollner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- On Fri, 02 Jul 2021 14:24:05 +0200 Paul Wollner 
>>> <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net 
>>> <mailto:paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>> wrote ----
>>>
>>> Mr. Kayihura,
>>>
>>> I refer to your email dated 30 June 2021.
>>>
>>> In it, you claim that Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the 
>>> open mic session held on 4 June 2021.
>>>
>>> The reality is that none of those questions were satisfactorily 
>>> answered. They were addressed to the extent that the questions were 
>>> acknowledged, then an attempt was made to obfuscate them and answer 
>>> different questions while pretending to answer the questions asked, 
>>> then a claim was made that the questions would be answered at a 
>>> later date.
>>>
>>> In reality, no such answer has been forthcoming from AFRINIC. We 
>>> recognize that these questions are likely inconvenient and come at 
>>> what is almost certainly an inopportune time to be asking. 
>>> Nonetheless, these are valid questions and as a resource member, we 
>>> feel that we are being held at unfair disadvantage if AFRINIC will 
>>> not provide a clear and direct answer to each of the questions about 
>>> how it interprets policies in these areas.
>>>
>>> There’s too much at stake to allow AFRINIC staff to simply make it 
>>> up as they go a long. We need a public commitment to the official 
>>> interpretation of these areas of potential ambiguity in the current 
>>> policy regime.
>>>
>>> As to the fourth item, while it is not our intent to micro-manage 
>>> AFRINIC staff decisions, it is our conclusion that even if Madhvi 
>>> did not actively participate in the fraudulent resource 
>>> registrations and embezzlement, she surely must have either turned a 
>>> blind eye (aiding and abetting) or she failed to notice it which at 
>>> best displays a level of incompetence and failure to meet her duty 
>>> of care in such a position.
>>>
>>> In summary, we renew our request for factual, reliable, direct 
>>> answers to each of the queries and request that AFRINIC eschew 
>>> further obfuscation and sophistry in the process.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Paul Wollner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:04:19 +0200 Eddy Kayihura 
>>> <eddy at afrinic.net <mailto:eddy at afrinic.net>> wrote ----
>>>
>>> Mr Wollner,
>>>
>>> I refer to your email dated 24 June 2021.
>>>
>>> Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic session held on 
>>> 4 June 2021 and we undertook an action to organise a webinar within 
>>> 2 months to discuss with the community the definition of 
>>> “need-based” in the AFRINIC policies and bylaws.
>>>
>>> We are delighted to see that the discussion amongst the community 
>>> has already started.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding question 4, we cannot penalise a staff member unless we 
>>> find concrete proof of their involvement in the misappropriation of 
>>> the IP resources. As of now, we do not have such evidence on any of 
>>> AFRINIC’s current staff members.
>>>
>>> The appropriate channel for such inquiry or complaint is to submit 
>>> it via our Whistleblowing platform.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Eddy Kayihura
>>>
>>> Chief Executive Officer,
>>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)
>>> …………………………………………………….
>>>
>>>
>>> M. Wollner,
>>>
>>> Je me réfère à votre courriel du 24 juin 2021.
>>>
>>> Les questions 1 à 3 ont été abordées lors de la session 'open mic' 
>>> qui s'est tenue le 4 juin 2021 et nous avons entrepris une action 
>>> visant à organiser un webinaire dans un délai de 2 mois afin de 
>>> discuter avec la communauté de la définition de "need-based" dans 
>>> les politiques et les statuts d'AFRINIC.
>>>
>>> Nous sommes ravis de voir que la discussion au sein de la communauté 
>>> a déjà commencé.
>>>
>>> En ce qui concerne la question 4, nous ne pouvons pas pénaliser un 
>>> membre du personnel à moins de trouver des preuves concrètes de son 
>>> implication dans la manipulation non autorisée des ressources IP. A 
>>> ce jour, nous n'avons pas de telles preuves sur aucun des membres 
>>> actuels du personnel d'AFRINIC.
>>>
>>> Le canal approprié pour une telle requête ou plainte est de la 
>>> soumettre via notre plateforme de whistleblowing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cordialement,
>>> Eddy Kayihura
>>> Directeur général,
>>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)
>>>
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