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[rpd] [Community-Discuss] Unaddressed queries by AFRINIC during AGMM

Mike Silber silber.mike at
Tue Jun 29 11:17:36 UTC 2021

Hi Sylvain

> On 29 Jun 2021, at 12:23, Sylvain Baya <abscoco at> wrote:


> Dear PDWG,


> Le mar. 29 juin 2021 8:30 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at <mailto:owen at>> a écrit :

>> 3. (not so simple) An organization which has multiple headquarters in multiple countries around the world and which has a significant global network

>> infrastructure.



>> sounds as this interesting usecase

>> requires a *global* policy [1]...i don't

>> figure well a *regional* RIR fit to offer

>> that kind of *global* service...i might be wrong

>> though :-/ but still open to learn, fortunately.

>> __

>> [1]: < <>>


> This is a misunderstanding of what a global policy is and how the global policy process works.



> Hi Owen,


> Thanks for your kick response brother :-)


> ...i appreciate that you took time to

> explain these *simple* things i started to

> better understand, by carefully reading

> existing historical materials, few months ago :-)


> You know, i'm still learning brother ;-)

> so, don't care to teach me :-)


> ...but, it appears that you failed to get my

> point here (please don't get me wrong again):


> my suggestion was not to propose a global policy, which could fix a global problem in imposing rules for RIRs to apply...i was sure you will understand it, as you understand how the global policy development process works.


> We should first agree that the problem you want to fix is certainly not a regional problem. Why try to fix it within RIR•s?


If I understand your proposal correctly, you are suggesting that certain entities would be able to obtain resources directly from the IANA? Does this not make either the IANA or the recipient a type of non-regional-RIR? In which case it would need to follow the process outlined in ICP-2.

This is an interesting edge case, as it would involve the IANA and potentially involve the RIRs in endorsing the rules …. so could conceivably be shoehorned under the rubric of a global policy.

I would need to see a fleshed out proposal with a lot more detail before I express an opinion, however I do agree that my initial knee-jerk reaction that this is not global policy may not have been correct.

I am also not sure that such a proposal would pass a sanity check under ICP-2 or the ASO MoU with ICANN, but happy to comment once there is more detail provided.

Needless to say, I think the prospects of such a proposal becoming global policy are slim to none, but not bad as a thought experiment.


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