[rpd] Call for interest for PDWG chairs closed & Way forward

Thu Apr 8 21:11:40 UTC 2021

I fully support Jaco's proposal and Mark's email below

Fernando Frediani

On 08/04/2021 14:56, Mark Elkins wrote:
>
> I really, really like this idea - especially the consensus part... and 
> also as it seems we only have two truly suitable candidates.
>
>     /1.  We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with
>     Vincent in the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year tenure. 
>     By consensus if possible./
>
> I have individually asked both Vincent and Darwin whether they would 
> be agreeable to this and they both stated *Yes *as per above.
>
> /        2.  Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I 
> would like to propose that we measure these
>         tenures as from "this year" such that the effective tenures 
> will be one and two years respectively from now,.../
>
> I also agree with this - I don't want a repeat of all this in two 
> months time.
>
> I don't expect full consensus - I honestly expect between 4 and 10 
> people to say No, and to repeat that several times. I would though 
> love to see masses of support for this. This will save quite a bit of 
> time (and money).. and allow us all to proceed fairly quickly with new 
> Co-Chairs - and back to a level of sanity!
>
> Please can we sort this out by *Reasonable Consensus!*
>
>
> On 4/8/21 6:16 PM, Jaco Kroon wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Given that we've repeatedly stated that there should be a nominator 
>> and a seconder for all nominations, this means we only really 
>> received 3 nominations (3,4,5 below).
>>
>> Given that Abulkarim (4) was one of the co-chairs removed by the 
>> recall committee, and there has been controversy around the previous 
>> co-chairs, in my opinion we only really have two candidates.
>>
>> And both of these candidates seems to be good choices.  From 
>> Vincent's (3) nomination, by Barry:
>>
>> "Vincent is an outstanding person for the PDWG as he was the first 
>> co-chair of the same back in the days. we need to bring back the 
>> fundamental values and hence i nominate him"
>>
>> I could not agree more about bringing back the fundamentals, and 
>> plainly Vincent has experience in a co-chair position that we 
>> desperately need at this point in time.
>>
>> Regarding Darwin (5), I've gone back and read a fair number of his 
>> emails over the last year or so, and Darwin in my opinion has a level 
>> head, the ability to reason and understand as well.  I could not find 
>> a single example of him being involved personally in a controversy in 
>> spite of him providing his opinion on a number of topics.
>>
>> I would thus like to make two proposals.
>>
>> 1.  We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with Vincent 
>> in the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year tenure.  By 
>> consensus if possible.
>>
>> 2.  Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I would like 
>> to propose that we measure these tenures as from "this year" such 
>> that the effective tenures will be one and two years respectively 
>> from now, and not "puppet" and "one year" effectively.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Jaco
>>
>> On 2021/04/08 16:26, AFRINIC Policy Liaison wrote:
>>> *
>>>
>>> Dear Colleagues
>>>
>>>
>>> As mentioned in our email on 7 April 2021, AFRINIC as Secretariat 
>>> had started the process of contacting the nominators that were 
>>> mentioned in the nomination forms of the candidates .  The update 
>>> feedback received is as follows:-
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     Wijdane Goubi  -  Nominator did not approve as per email received
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
>>>     Anthony Ikechukwu Ubah -  Nominator did not approve as per email
>>>     received
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.
>>>
>>>     Vincent Ngundi - Both nominator & Seconder approved as per email
>>>     received
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.
>>>
>>>     Adbulkarim Oloyede -  Both nominator & Seconder approved as per
>>>     email received
>>>
>>>
>>> 5.
>>>
>>>     Darwin da Costa - Both nominator & Seconder approved as per
>>>     email received
>>>
>>>
>>> 6.
>>>
>>>     Elvis Ibeanusi - Nominator approved as per  email  received
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
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