[rpd] Call for interest for PDWG chairs closed & Way forward

[Noah]

Jordi

I agree with your suggestion to invoke 3.6 that is if some WG
participants disagree  with the Jaco/Ish/Elkins preference.

*./noah*
neo - network engineering and operations


On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 9:30 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:


> I also agree.

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> However, if somebody disagree with the point 2 below, that should not be a

> blocking point or worry right now, because as I mention the other day, we

> can ask the elected chairs to allow the PDWG to discuss a simple

> 1-paragraph proposal, using the 3.6 varying the process, such as:

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> “In case any of the chairs have been recalled, the selected replacement

> will serve a full term in such way that it coincides with the staggered

> two-year terms ending after the closer PPM to match the term.”

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> Regards,

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> Jordi

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> @jordipalet

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> El 8/4/21 20:04, "Mark Elkins" <mje at posix.co.za> escribió:

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> I really, really like this idea - especially the consensus part... and

> also as it seems we only have two truly suitable candidates.

>

> *1.  We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with Vincent in

> the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year tenure.  By consensus if

> possible.*

>

> I have individually asked both Vincent and Darwin whether they would be

> agreeable to this and they both stated *Yes *as per above.

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>

> *        2.  Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I would

> like to propose that we measure these        tenures as from "this year"

> such that the effective tenures will be one and two years respectively from

> now,...*

>

> I also agree with this - I don't want a repeat of all this in two months

> time.

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> I don't expect full consensus - I honestly expect between 4 and 10 people

> to say No, and to repeat that several times. I would though love to see

> masses of support for this. This will save quite a bit of time (and

> money).. and allow us all to proceed fairly quickly with new Co-Chairs -

> and back to a level of sanity!

>

> Please can we sort this out by *Reasonable Consensus!*

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> On 4/8/21 6:16 PM, Jaco Kroon wrote:

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> Hi All,

>

> Given that we've repeatedly stated that there should be a nominator and a

> seconder for all nominations, this means we only really received 3

> nominations (3,4,5 below).

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> Given that Abulkarim (4) was one of the co-chairs removed by the recall

> committee, and there has been controversy around the previous co-chairs, in

> my opinion we only really have two candidates.

>

> And both of these candidates seems to be good choices.  From Vincent's (3)

> nomination, by Barry:

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> "Vincent is an outstanding person for the PDWG as he was the first

> co-chair of the same back in the days. we need to bring back the

> fundamental values and hence i nominate him"

>

> I could not agree more about bringing back the fundamentals, and plainly

> Vincent has experience in a co-chair position that we desperately need at

> this point in time.

>

> Regarding Darwin (5), I've gone back and read a fair number of his emails

> over the last year or so, and Darwin in my opinion has a level head, the

> ability to reason and understand as well.  I could not find a single

> example of him being involved personally in a controversy in spite of him

> providing his opinion on a number of topics.

>

> I would thus like to make two proposals.

>

> 1.  We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with Vincent in

> the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year tenure.  By consensus if

> possible.

>

> 2.  Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I would like to

> propose that we measure these tenures as from "this year" such that the

> effective tenures will be one and two years respectively from now, and not

> "puppet" and "one year" effectively.

>

> Kind Regards,

> Jaco

>

> On 2021/04/08 16:26, AFRINIC Policy Liaison wrote:

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> Dear Colleagues

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>

> As mentioned in our email on 7 April 2021, AFRINIC as Secretariat had

> started the process of contacting the nominators that were mentioned in the

> nomination forms of the candidates .  The update feedback received is as

> follows:-

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> 1.       Wijdane Goubi  -  Nominator did not approve as per email

> received

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> 2.                  Anthony Ikechukwu Ubah -  Nominator did not approve

> as per email received

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> 3.                  Vincent Ngundi - Both nominator & Seconder approved

> as per email received

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> 4.                  Adbulkarim Oloyede -  Both nominator & Seconder

> approved as per email received

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> 5.                  Darwin da Costa - Both nominator & Seconder approved

> as per email received

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> 6.                  Elvis Ibeanusi - Nominator approved as per  email

> received

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