[rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs

[Fernando Frediani]

*Any people in charge must match minimal criteria*

On 28/03/2021 11:50, Fernando Frediani wrote:

>

> Exactly.

>

> Openness and inclusiveness doesn't mean to have no rules.

> We are having all this trouble because of the lack of experience of 

> previous co-chairs and now there are people with political correctness 

> that this should be opened to anyone without any criteria.

>

> The output of the PDWG is too much critical to have people with little 

> or no experience using it for personal learning just to say it 

> welcomes anyone without any basis. No people in charge must match 

> minimal criteria and the role of a Co-Chair is too much serious for that.

>

> Regards

> Fernando Frediani

>

> On 28/03/2021 11:20, Mark Elkins wrote:

>>

>>

>> On 3/28/21 12:06 PM, lucilla fornaro wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Community,

>>>

>>> Although I understand that we need some elements to evaluate 

>>> candidates, by reading the Eligibility Criteria I have the feeling 

>>> that we are restricting access to a limited number of people. They 

>>> go against the principle of openness and inclusiveness. Not to 

>>> mention that the eligibility criteria are already specified in the CPM.

>>>

>>> Specifically, I have some concerns about the following points:

>>> Point C: I am not saying that active participation is not important 

>>> but, I don't see it as a mandatory criterion.  Everyone interested 

>>> in running should be potentially eligible for the position.

>>

>> Please think about what you are saying.... Someone who has never 

>> participated suddenly wants to be in charge of and manage the 

>> process? Just the learning curve....

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Point D: it does not make any sense at all to me. Why shall we 

>>> consider it a requirement? According to the other points, co-chairs 

>>> are supposed to have a solid knowledge of the CPM, as well as 

>>> technical knowledge. Therefore, point D is useless.

>>> With this approach, we would preclude the access to co-chair 

>>> position to valuable people that, for several reasons, could not get 

>>> access to the events.

>>

>>

>> If people could not previously attend AfriNIC meetings either in 

>> person or remotely - then why would their position suddenly change so 

>> now they can? Point "D" is track record. No track record is a strong 

>> indicator that either they are very new in the industry or they never 

>> will have a track record.

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Lucilla

>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>> *Da:* Madhvi Gokool <madhvi at afrinic.net>

>>> *Inviato:* sabato, marzo 27, 2021 2:20 AM

>>> *A:* RPD

>>> *Oggetto:* [rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs

>>>

>>> *Dear PDWG,*

>>>

>>> *

>>>

>>> I submit to you the below proposed eligibility criteria which are 

>>> based upon the previous discussions on the rpd mailing list.

>>>

>>>

>>> We encourage you to follow the following guidelines to facilitate 

>>> the compilation of your feedback:-

>>>

>>>

>>> 1.

>>>

>>>     Please read and thoroughly review the list of eligibility criteria.

>>>

>>> 2.

>>>

>>>     Please reply back to this email to keep the same thread of the

>>>     discussion to ensure that  your feedback is read.

>>>

>>> 3.

>>>

>>>     If there are any criteria that you either support or do not

>>>     support, please clearly refer to it  and provide concise

>>>     feedback (refer to the numbering in the list below).

>>>

>>> 4.

>>>

>>>     If there are new criteria that you would like to propose, please

>>>     clearly mention it concisely and  add a new numbering.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> *Proposed Eligibility Criteria *

>>>

>>>

>>> 1.

>>>

>>>     The intended volunteer must be well conversant with AFRINIC’s

>>>     consensus-driven ecosystem, including its Policy Development

>>>     Process; A practical  understanding of RFC 7282 is required.

>>>

>>> 2.

>>>

>>>     The intended volunteer must be accessible and make himself or

>>>     herself available to follow and moderate all policy proposal

>>>     discussions on AFRINIC’s rpd mailing list as well as attending

>>>     AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings whenever they are held (Note: All

>>>     logistical assistance will be provided by AFRINIC);

>>>

>>> 3.

>>>

>>>     The intended volunteer must have at least 3 years of sufficient

>>>     past and active participative experience on either AFRINIC’s or

>>>     any other RIR’s rpd mailing list;

>>>

>>> 4.

>>>

>>>     The Intended volunteer must have participated in at least two

>>>     (2) AFRINIC events (face-to-face or virtual) in the past three

>>>     (3) years;

>>>

>>> 5.

>>>

>>>     The intended volunteer must have sufficient capability of

>>>     understanding and interpreting the contents of AFRINIC’s

>>>     Consolidated Policy Manual;

>>>

>>> 6.

>>>

>>>     The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate good

>>>     technical knowledge and understanding of the Internet ecosystem.

>>>     Having 3 years of related technical experience would be an advantage

>>>

>>> 7.

>>>

>>>     Not being author of any of the policy proposals currently under 

>>>     discussion.

>>>

>>>

>>> The following are proposals not in the discussion threads :

>>>

>>> H)The intended volunteer must either reside within or originate 

>>> from  AFRINIC’s service region;

>>>

>>> I) The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate excellent 

>>> presentation and communication skills.

>>>

>>>

>>> We look forward to receiving your comments and feedback.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ……………………………………………………………..

>>>

>>>

>>> Cher PDWG,

>>>

>>>

>>> Je vous communique les critères d'éligibilité proposés ci-dessous, 

>>> qui sont basés sur les discussions précédentes sur la liste de 

>>> diffusion rpd.

>>>

>>>

>>> Nous vous encourageons à suivre les directives suivantes afin de 

>>> faciliter la compilation de vos commentaires :-

>>>

>>>

>>> 1.

>>>

>>>     Veuillez lire et examiner attentivement la liste des critères

>>>     d'éligibilité.

>>>

>>> 2.

>>>

>>>     Veuillez répondre à ce courriel afin de conserver le même fil de

>>>     discussion et de vous assurer que vos commentaires sont lus.

>>>

>>> 3.

>>>

>>>     S'il y a des critères que vous soutenez ou non, veuillez y faire

>>>     clairement référence et fournir un retour d'information concis

>>>     (veuillez vous référer à la numérotation dans la liste ci-dessous).

>>>

>>> 4.

>>>

>>>     S'il y a de nouveaux critères que vous souhaitez proposer,

>>>     veuillez le mentionner clairement et de manière concise et

>>>     ajouter une nouvelle numérotation.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Critères d'éligibilité proposés

>>>

>>>

>>> 1.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit bien connaître l'écosystème

>>>     consensuel d'AFRINIC, y compris son processus d'élaboration des

>>>     politiques. Une compréhension pratique du RFC 7282 est requise.

>>>

>>> 2.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit être accessible et se rendre

>>>     disponible pour suivre et modérer toutes les discussions sur les

>>>     propositions de politique sur la liste de diffusion rpd

>>>     d'AFRINIC, ainsi que pour assister aux réunions de politique

>>>     publique d'AFRINIC lorsqu'elles ont lieu (Note : Toute

>>>     l'assistance logistique sera fournie par AFRINIC) ;

>>>

>>> 3.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit avoir au moins 3 ans d'expérience

>>>     suffisante et active de participation à la liste de diffusion

>>>     rpd de l'AFRINIC ou de tout autre RIR ;

>>>

>>> 4.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit avoir participé à au moins deux (2)

>>>     événements AFRINIC (face à face ou virtuels) au cours des trois

>>>     (3) dernières années ;

>>>

>>> 5.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit avoir une capacité suffisante de

>>>     compréhension et d'interprétation du contenu du Consolidated

>>>     Policy Manual d'AFRINIC ;

>>>

>>> 6.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit être capable de démontrer une bonne

>>>     connaissance technique et une bonne compréhension de

>>>     l'écosystème Internet. Une expérience technique de 3 ans dans ce

>>>     domaine serait un avantage.

>>>

>>> 7.

>>>

>>>     Ne doit pas être l'auteur de l'une des propositions de politique

>>>     actuellement en discussion.

>>>

>>>

>>> Les propositions suivantes ne figurent pas dans les fils de discussion :

>>>

>>> 8.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit soit résider ou soit en être

>>>     originaire de la région de service d'AFRINIC, ;

>>>

>>> 9.

>>>

>>>     Le volontaire doit être capable de démontrer d'excellentes

>>>     capacités de présentation et de communication.

>>>

>>>

>>> Nous nous attendons à recevoir vos commentaires et feedbacks.

>>>

>>> *

>>>

>>> Regards

>>>

>>> Madhvi

>>>

>>> -- 

>>> Madhvi Gokool

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