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[rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Sun Mar 28 15:06:23 UTC 2021


*Any people in charge must match minimal criteria*

On 28/03/2021 11:50, Fernando Frediani wrote:
>
> Exactly.
>
> Openness and inclusiveness doesn't mean to have no rules.
> We are having all this trouble because of the lack of experience of 
> previous co-chairs and now there are people with political correctness 
> that this should be opened to anyone without any criteria.
>
> The output of the PDWG is too much critical to have people with little 
> or no experience using it for personal learning just to say it 
> welcomes anyone without any basis. No people in charge must match 
> minimal criteria and the role of a Co-Chair is too much serious for that.
>
> Regards
> Fernando Frediani
>
> On 28/03/2021 11:20, Mark Elkins wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 3/28/21 12:06 PM, lucilla fornaro wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Community,
>>>
>>> Although I understand that we need some elements to evaluate 
>>> candidates, by reading the Eligibility Criteria I have the feeling 
>>> that we are restricting access to a limited number of people. They 
>>> go against the principle of openness and inclusiveness. Not to 
>>> mention that the eligibility criteria are already specified in the CPM.
>>>
>>> Specifically, I have some concerns about the following points:
>>> Point C: I am not saying that active participation is not important 
>>> but, I don't see it as a mandatory criterion.  Everyone interested 
>>> in running should be potentially eligible for the position.
>>
>> Please think about what you are saying.... Someone who has never 
>> participated suddenly wants to be in charge of and manage the 
>> process? Just the learning curve....
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Point D: it does not make any sense at all to me. Why shall we 
>>> consider it a requirement? According to the other points, co-chairs 
>>> are supposed to have a solid knowledge of the CPM, as well as 
>>> technical knowledge. Therefore, point D is useless.
>>> With this approach, we would preclude the access to co-chair 
>>> position to valuable people that, for several reasons, could not get 
>>> access to the events.
>>
>>
>> If people could not previously attend AfriNIC meetings either in 
>> person or remotely - then why would their position suddenly change so 
>> now they can? Point "D" is track record. No track record is a strong 
>> indicator that either they are very new in the industry or they never 
>> will have a track record.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Lucilla
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *Da:* Madhvi Gokool <madhvi at afrinic.net>
>>> *Inviato:* sabato, marzo 27, 2021 2:20 AM
>>> *A:* RPD
>>> *Oggetto:* [rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs
>>>
>>> *Dear PDWG,*
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> I submit to you the below proposed eligibility criteria which are 
>>> based upon the previous discussions on the rpd mailing list.
>>>
>>>
>>> We encourage you to follow the following guidelines to facilitate 
>>> the compilation of your feedback:-
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     Please read and thoroughly review the list of eligibility criteria.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
>>>     Please reply back to this email to keep the same thread of the
>>>     discussion to ensure that  your feedback is read.
>>>
>>> 3.
>>>
>>>     If there are any criteria that you either support or do not
>>>     support, please clearly refer to it  and provide concise
>>>     feedback (refer to the numbering in the list below).
>>>
>>> 4.
>>>
>>>     If there are new criteria that you would like to propose, please
>>>     clearly mention it concisely and  add a new numbering.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Proposed Eligibility Criteria *
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     The intended volunteer must be well conversant with AFRINIC’s
>>>     consensus-driven ecosystem, including its Policy Development
>>>     Process; A practical  understanding of RFC 7282 is required.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
>>>     The intended volunteer must be accessible and make himself or
>>>     herself available to follow and moderate all policy proposal
>>>     discussions on AFRINIC’s rpd mailing list as well as attending
>>>     AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings whenever they are held (Note: All
>>>     logistical assistance will be provided by AFRINIC);
>>>
>>> 3.
>>>
>>>     The intended volunteer must have at least 3 years of sufficient
>>>     past and active participative experience on either AFRINIC’s or
>>>     any other RIR’s rpd mailing list;
>>>
>>> 4.
>>>
>>>     The Intended volunteer must have participated in at least two
>>>     (2) AFRINIC events (face-to-face or virtual) in the past three
>>>     (3) years;
>>>
>>> 5.
>>>
>>>     The intended volunteer must have sufficient capability of
>>>     understanding and interpreting the contents of AFRINIC’s
>>>     Consolidated Policy Manual;
>>>
>>> 6.
>>>
>>>     The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate good
>>>     technical knowledge and understanding of the Internet ecosystem.
>>>     Having 3 years of related technical experience would be an advantage
>>>
>>> 7.
>>>
>>>     Not being author of any of the policy proposals currently under 
>>>     discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>> The following are proposals not in the discussion threads :
>>>
>>> H)The intended volunteer must either reside within or originate 
>>> from  AFRINIC’s service region;
>>>
>>> I) The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate excellent 
>>> presentation and communication skills.
>>>
>>>
>>> We look forward to receiving your comments and feedback.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ……………………………………………………………..
>>>
>>>
>>> Cher PDWG,
>>>
>>>
>>> Je vous communique les critères d'éligibilité proposés ci-dessous, 
>>> qui sont basés sur les discussions précédentes sur la liste de 
>>> diffusion rpd.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nous vous encourageons à suivre les directives suivantes afin de 
>>> faciliter la compilation de vos commentaires :-
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     Veuillez lire et examiner attentivement la liste des critères
>>>     d'éligibilité.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
>>>     Veuillez répondre à ce courriel afin de conserver le même fil de
>>>     discussion et de vous assurer que vos commentaires sont lus.
>>>
>>> 3.
>>>
>>>     S'il y a des critères que vous soutenez ou non, veuillez y faire
>>>     clairement référence et fournir un retour d'information concis
>>>     (veuillez vous référer à la numérotation dans la liste ci-dessous).
>>>
>>> 4.
>>>
>>>     S'il y a de nouveaux critères que vous souhaitez proposer,
>>>     veuillez le mentionner clairement et de manière concise et
>>>     ajouter une nouvelle numérotation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Critères d'éligibilité proposés
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit bien connaître l'écosystème
>>>     consensuel d'AFRINIC, y compris son processus d'élaboration des
>>>     politiques. Une compréhension pratique du RFC 7282 est requise.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit être accessible et se rendre
>>>     disponible pour suivre et modérer toutes les discussions sur les
>>>     propositions de politique sur la liste de diffusion rpd
>>>     d'AFRINIC, ainsi que pour assister aux réunions de politique
>>>     publique d'AFRINIC lorsqu'elles ont lieu (Note : Toute
>>>     l'assistance logistique sera fournie par AFRINIC) ;
>>>
>>> 3.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit avoir au moins 3 ans d'expérience
>>>     suffisante et active de participation à la liste de diffusion
>>>     rpd de l'AFRINIC ou de tout autre RIR ;
>>>
>>> 4.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit avoir participé à au moins deux (2)
>>>     événements AFRINIC (face à face ou virtuels) au cours des trois
>>>     (3) dernières années ;
>>>
>>> 5.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit avoir une capacité suffisante de
>>>     compréhension et d'interprétation du contenu du Consolidated
>>>     Policy Manual d'AFRINIC ;
>>>
>>> 6.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit être capable de démontrer une bonne
>>>     connaissance technique et une bonne compréhension de
>>>     l'écosystème Internet. Une expérience technique de 3 ans dans ce
>>>     domaine serait un avantage.
>>>
>>> 7.
>>>
>>>     Ne doit pas être l'auteur de l'une des propositions de politique
>>>     actuellement en discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>> Les propositions suivantes ne figurent pas dans les fils de discussion :
>>>
>>> 8.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire concerné doit soit résider ou soit en être
>>>     originaire de la région de service d'AFRINIC, ;
>>>
>>> 9.
>>>
>>>     Le volontaire doit être capable de démontrer d'excellentes
>>>     capacités de présentation et de communication.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nous nous attendons à recevoir vos commentaires et feedbacks.
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Madhvi
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Madhvi Gokool
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